this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2024
888 points (96.8% liked)

News

23376 readers
1882 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 79 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I think it's just because people are mean and want someone to bully and trans people aren't quite as protected by society as other marginalized groups yet so they're the easiest target. Plus probably from some people it's fear that if other people are allowed to be who they are then they themselves might realize they aren't the perfect little cis straight christian they want to be seen as.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My first thought in situations like this is that maybe he secretly wishes he were a she. It's true just often enough that I think it's worth considering as an option.

And honestly, I don't care if it's true or not. If, whenever a public figure publicly tries to humiliate or demonize some minority group, public discourse immediately starts talking about whether said public figure secretly is, or wants to be, a member of said minority group, then it serves as a deterrent for others wanting to humiliate or demonize minority groups.

A) You're in the closet and don't want people to know? Then don't ridicule people who came out of the closet.

B) Oh, you're not in the closet and don't want people to think you are? What a coincidence. Also, don't ridicule people who came out of the closet.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While what you're saying comes from the right place, it can also be dangerous. That attitude/idea can lead to blaming the marginalized group for their own victimhood.

I do think it's more common for gay than trans, and sometimes has a grain of truth. But much of the time people are just assholes looking for someone to bully and hate.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That attitude/idea can lead to blaming the marginalized group for their own victimhood.

Probably a dumb question, but how so?

I just see it as beating the bully with their own stick. I can't imagine how anyone would see that and conclude that the bully's victims are somehow to blame. Probably lack of imagination on my part, so help me out.

[–] a_queer_one@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think the way you applied it showed some nuance, as you talked about it in non-absolute terms. However, when applied broadly it can be harmful.

If we always assume that homophobes and transphobes are queer and trans, then we assume that queer and trans folx are the ones hurting themselves. It's a small jump from there to say that closted lgbtq people are the source of lgbtq people's trauma, which is both harmful and false.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Too many times some shitty person that blamed gays for everything and wanted to rule against them ended up "by mistake" in some party with a dick in his ass.

That doesn't mean there aren't actual bastards that hate anything they don't understand.