this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2023
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One of the major flaws of R*ddit was the upvote/karma feature, which turned posting into a performance and a popularity contes, as you've mentioned. I hope as Lenny and the fediverse develops, we can shed those features in favor of a more simple and equitable system.
In the end, we will always need a way to sort content. that could be from engagement, comments, or some kind of Karma system.
Its just unfortunate that that was then tied back into your account.
Using upvotes to sort content is one thing. That doesn't mean the score has to be visible to everyone.
I read this the other day and thought it could be a cool idea: https://phys.org/news/2023-06-social-media-distrust-buttons-misinformation.html
Sounds very cool. I haven't read the study, but I think a key part of this is how the post is promoted. If more "trusted" posts are promoted, could the button effectively become the new like button? Can bots abuse this system? "Distrusting" a post demotes it? All those things have to be taken into consideration specially when accounting for bots and brigading. Nonetheless, looks promising
Agree completely. I was thinking about keeping the upvote/downvote but just using them for content ranking, but hide the actual scores in the UI. Then its up the instances to decide if they want to show it or not.
In principle I agree with karma turned posts into people gaming the system.
However, I've heard one of the struggles for Lemmy Communities is to keep people from lurking.
Karma might be a stupid feature but it is/was a cheap way of driving participation - it could help Lemmy (especially at this early stage). Even if karma encouraged people to just up voted, it still raised visibility on the more interesting topics.