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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Gasoline motors can be recharged in a couple of minutes.

[–] alphafalcon@feddit.de 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)

My EV sits in the driveway and soaks up excess production from my PV setup.
My main problem is it's never really empty enough.

If I'm on the road, a high voltage DC charger gets me from 10% to 50% in about 10 minutes. Barely enough time for a coffee and a leak, then it's another 2 hours of driving. Rinse, repeat.

Sure, you can't barrel down the Autobahn for 10 hours straight without stopping but who wants that?

[–] Solemn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I make a 9-10 hour drive to see my family multiple times a year. I normally stop twice to get gas and use the bathroom, and that's it. Sounds like you'd be adding most of an hour to my travel time each way. I've tried stopping longer and grabbing food, it's not worth it for me.

With that said, I drive 25-40 miles a day the other 360+ days of the year, so it'd really make much more sense for me to have a short range EV and rent something for travel when I have too much luggage to fly.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe don't do that? Catch a train it's significantly cheaper anyway.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No passenger rail. It's car or a once a week bus that doesn't even stop in the town my family lives in.

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[–] Solemn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That would become a 15+ hour trip then...

Edit: On further investigation, it's also not significantly cheaper than flying, and is much more expensive than fuel for driving.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

But much better for the environment, sometimes others matter more and when more people use rail it's more likely our country will catch up and build hyper train networks.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Sadly, yes. I live in Germany, and here you need a BahnCard50 (or better) for the train to be cheaper than the gas for driving.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

you really ought to be stopping a few more times, i don't understand how so many people are just completely fine with driving for 3 hours nonstop

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

who wants that?

I do. We have family that we visit a few times each year. If I leave at 2am and drive straight through, we get there in 7-8 hours. If I make the drive during the day, it takes 10-13 hours.

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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I’m not wealthy enough for a PV setup.

And I love road trips. Some of the most beautiful areas of my country are 3000+ km from me.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My EV sits in the driveway and soaks up excess production from my PV setup.

Yeah EVs are a great solution for homeowners.

Sure, you can't barrel down the Autobahn for 10 hours straight without stopping but who wants that?

As an Uber driver, I want that. I want to be able to gas my car back up and go back on he road and keep earning money.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

Congrats your are not the market target for EVs then, guess what that doesn't mean that the majority of the population isn't though.

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (32 children)
[–] thegreatgarbo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Driving to work 110 miles a day meant I had to get gas once per week, driving out of my way, stopping to get gas cost me 500 minutes per year as opposed to the two seconds to plug in at home. Totally a no brainer. I HATED stopping for gas on the way home from work at 11 in the evening, or whatever hour really. I think of people tied to ICE engines the way people were tied to outhouses a hundred years ago.

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (14 children)

If you're driving more than 300miles a day you're just admitting your a much larger slice of the shitty pie.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

If it’s not a concern for my phone, why should it be for my vehicle? It is so nice never having to go to a local gas station, when all I need to do is plug in at night

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why on earth do you get down votes? This is the truth. Downvoters just straw man argue pointing out that 'just charge your car at home', which isn't the matter of discussion. There isn't even a discussion to be had - it is faster to refuel a car than recharge. Might this matter to you? Maybe, maybe not.

[–] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If the car is recharged at home, you may never need to stop to add gas. Electric is the future bro, get over your hangups.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Charging the car at home is for middle class people and above, generally speaking. Not everyone gets to park their car next to an outlet.

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