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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If we trace one ancestry path back to science-fiction fandom, well, there's John W. Campbell.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

yeah, I have posited previously that the California Ideology traces in a straight line through science fiction to Rudyard Kipling.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

"And a waifu is only a waifu, but a good cigar is a smoke."

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In the first Foundation story, there's a weird mention of applying symbolic logic to human language that comes from nowhere and goes nowhere. Campbell insisted upon it because

he felt in our discussions that symbolic logic, further developed, would so clear up the mysteries of the human mind as to leave human actions predictable. The reason human beings are so unpredictable was we didn't really know what they were saying and thinking because language is generally used obscurely. So what we needed was something that would unobscure the language and leave everything clear.

Clear being a fortuitous choice of wording on Asimov's part there, given, well.

TESCREAL and Scientology don't just share methodology; they both descend directly from "Golden Age" science fiction. In this essay I will

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago

Ah, I do believe I now see a bit of an extra in the reason for the makeup of the story in that one writer/writing episode of DS9