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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Not exactly a proxy war when Russian troops are personally in Ukraine. That’s just a war.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The Korean War had over a million NATO troops and also tens of thousands of Soviet troops and, somehow, remained a proxy war. A particularly bloody one, but there was still no actual open full-scale warfare between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. Even China and America remained officially at peace, despite making up the majority of the forces on each side

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Korean War was led by the UN. NATO wasn’t involved.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 5 months ago

Apologies, I was using "NATO troops" as a shorthand for the large number of countries involved rather than the specific command structure. You are right to bring that up

[–] Mechanize@feddit.it 8 points 5 months ago

Russia is actively in Syria from the end of 2015 as an official belligerent, it's not something new for Russia to fight directly while others use only proxies.

But I can see your point; still - officially - this is only a ~~three days~~ military operation. When that stance will finally change in the official channels, it will mean they can't hold the mask anymore.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

It’s not a proxy war between Russia and the US. It’s a proxy war between China and the US.

Russia and Ukraine are the pawns

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It's a proxy war because the two major powers are fighting in an area neither of them own.

Iraq was a proxy war, even though US troops were there.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Because Russia was funding one side, ask George Bush senior.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I’d say not since Russia is trying to directly annex those portions of Ukraine. How is that a proxy?