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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 142 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Not to worry! Li’l Kim’s Bestest Buddy and Honorary Number One Chief Saluter will be ready to help NK help Russia destroy Ukraine and NATO.

All you MAGA service “losers” and “suckers” got quite the cognitive dissonance jam rockin’ huh.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago (10 children)

That military man looked really important. Even a king would salute.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 100 points 5 months ago (17 children)

I hope everyone that keeps down voting me for talking about WW3 are right...

But man, it really is starting to look like WW3

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago (3 children)

People forgot how long it took the other world wars to really get rolling. (Presumably because they weren’t alive when it happened.)

I’m also of the opinion that unless something happens to de-escalate this conflict it will inevitably draw Europe, the US, and China in.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Everybody is already in and picked the side...

We just waiting for the other shoe to drop... Is US Marines landing in Crimea or other wild scenario where everyone goes: " well damn and that's how it turned into ww3"

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

They also forget about the 4+1 treaty.

If Israel expands to other countries, it would draw Russia in on their side, and the US on Israel's

Which now also brings NK in. And we've got a multi front multi country war with two distinct fronts.

People might not call it WW3, but there's a world war coming straight ahead, and as good of a movie as it was, I dont want to recreate the Titanic

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To me it looks like N Korea wanting to acquire some direct combat experience to continue to develop their skills and capabilities.

But yes, personally I was not expecting this.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

They didn't start calling WWII what it is until 1944, but I think we can all agree it didn't start in 1944.
Just like later historians placed the start of WWII on multiple different events depending on which country you're in, the start of World War III will be long before we start calling it that.
I'm in the camp that the start of WW3 will be the Russian invasion of Ukraine if things continue to escalate the way they're going, because that's when you really started seeing lines being drawn between the axis and allies.
Russia, China, Iran, and NK are the most recognizable names that have aligned themselves with the axis so far.
The lines are already drawn and future events will dictate whether or not we're currently living in WW3 today.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Also, the winners will interprete who gets to be the axis and who gets to be the allies in history books...

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Not really, proxy wars have been fought with multiple nations before.

... practically everyone was in Syria... Russia, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Armenia, Qatar, The USA, ISIS, Al-queda, and Syrian forces.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Not exactly a proxy war when Russian troops are personally in Ukraine. That’s just a war.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

To me, it does not seem wise to just let these two continue along this path, but I am certain there are numerous internet experts out there who can explain to me why we should not intervene.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago (12 children)

How would you propose the intervention happen? Sit Kim down and say "bad boy, stop it"?

What can "the west" really do to prevent or stop troops from NK being sent to the Ukraine front?

Russia isn't going to stop them from crossing their border.

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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 98 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So it’s OK for Ukraine to invite friends along to help too?

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 68 points 5 months ago (13 children)

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the US announced it would lift the ban on American contractors going to Ukraine at the same time as this. Russia reaps what it sows. Ukraine gets highly payed and skilled contractors, in return, Russia gets malnourished and untrained Korean conscripts.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

The North Koreans are perfect for the Russian tactic of forcing the Ukrainians to deplete their ammo by throwing meat at them.

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[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

According to Russian propaganda Ukraine has been doing just that the entire time, but if it actually happened that would be yet another red line to cross.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Time to translate those surrender instruction leaflets to Korean. Maybe go ahead and plan to build a large camp for malnourished people.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 57 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These guys will have a better time in Ukrainian captivity than 99% of the population at home...

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[–] Eww@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Curious how many will defect once outside North Korea.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago (27 children)

According to hexbear you would have to have some deranged lib mind to believe any would want to.

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[–] AlexanderESmith@social.alexanderesmith.com 39 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm putting good money down that they either have mass surrenders, or they're just too malnourished to fight.

Possibly both.

Oh, oh! Or they refuse to come back from Russia, and that pisses off NK .

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My money is on NK never sending anyone and this all being political theater. Please. Please please please.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

That makes the most sense. NK doesn't stand to gain much, but they haven't got much to lose

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I suspect NK will kill their families if they refuse to come back, but I'd be completely unsurprised if some fake their deaths and try to disappear.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not a single one of those support troops has any combat experience.

So good luck, guys.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

A free trip for defection for North Koreans!

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

We're getting a lot closer to a bigger global conflict as NK troops and American Military contractors begin to enter the fray. Anyone else feel like were inching closer to World War than we've been since the last one ended?

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We’ve been inching closer and closer ever since 2014. Is not an excuse to abandon Ukraine though. Russia won’t stop cause we give them some land.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 46 points 5 months ago

Appeasement didn't stop Hitler in the 30s and 40s. It won't stop Putin now. It never works.

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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This isn't going to do anything. First of all, North Korea is probably not going to send battle ready soldiers to a foreign country. There's really no reason for it. They might send ditch diggers for trenches.

Second of all, this isn't going to move the needle on the battlefield. Russia already has more troops than Ukraine. They need more and better arms and ammunition, plus better support, training, airplanes, missiles, drones, commanders, etc. Basically Russia needs a completely different military.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Funny thing is the eventual survivor won't be brought back to NK after having seen the lavish lifes the russians live...

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

Every picture of Putin and Kim together just looks like an adult tricking a kid.

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Does north korea have actually good military power? I've seen their parades here and there, but does anyone know if they have updated equipment, trained military personnel, good intelligence, etc?

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (5 children)

They have massive amount of soldiers and are good and making artillery and missiles. It is a big black box however since they haven't been engaged in a conflict recently so all their troops lack experience.

Their economy is practically built for conflict so it shouldn't be taken lightly.

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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Military is the only thing they have. It might not be the most modern, but they have more artilery shells than any other country. Other stockpiles are huge AF as well. Almost 4% of their population are in active military service and 2% more are reservists. In terms of head count, they have almost as many active personel as Russia while having a fraction of population. Plenty of disposable meat!

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[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

News in 30 days: Digestive Parasites are up 70,000% in Eastern Ukraine.

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