Haters aren't worth listening to. Doesn't matter if it is flatpak, systemd, wayland, or whatever else. These people have no interest in a discussion about merits and drawbacks of a given solution. They just want to be angry about something.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know, right!? Add gimp to that list as well. I can go on and on about shortcomings of gimp despite being a happy user. The average gimp hater, on the other hand, doesn't have anything to say besides "the UI is dumb and I can't figure out how to draw a circle"

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"The UI is unintuitive" is a legitimate complaint

[–] uis@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Intuitive UI" results in Gnome.

[–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it really intuitive if I have to open dconf-editor to change the system font?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

They call it "intuitive UI", Linus calls it "‘users are idiots, and are confused by functionality’ mentality of Gnome"

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not always a zero-sum game.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Elaborate? Most of good UI comes from KDE.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What I mean is, makingg a UI more intuitive does not necessarily make it more... Gnome-ey? It can still be effective, customizable, etc.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

"Intuitive UI" crowd usually means Gnome-ey/Apple-ey design.

In reality customizable design is more intuitive, because you can customize it to your intuition.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

kate editor would like to have a word... They did my lady kate dirty with the latest updates :( The top level File menu was so much better and now I don't know where to find the configuration to get that back, and have on my work computer a stupid single button in the top right corner which opens the "menu bar", except vertically..

[–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Wayland gets the hate because compositors are authoritative so you cannot e.g. install your own window manager, taskbar, etc. It would be good if there were specifications governing these, but there isn't.