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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 113 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Do not know how many times I've been driving down the road peacefully listening to an audiobook when my family or friends start a conversation in a group chat that pings every 3 to 10 seconds with new replies or notifications that someone "loved" a comment or some shit.

My phone: "The truth was evident all along. In fact, the killer was..." PING ... "evident all along..." PING... "evident all along. In fact,..." PING... "evident all along. In fact, the killer was right under..." PING...

Me: "For the love of God, SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

Phone: PING

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I found a fix for that and you should use it while driving anyway. Three words DO NOT DISTURB.

Every since I discovered that I use it while driving and no more interrupts to my audiobook, podcast, nor music.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I want my phone to still be reachable. I want to receive texts still, as well as calls. I just don't want to be inundated with interrupting notifications while trying to listen to something when I can't easily manipulate my phone.

They could make an optional setting to where after a notification pings, your phone won't ping for subsequent notifications for some time frame after, like, say, 30 seconds. They could also let you set default notification preferences when your phone is connected to Bluetooth in a car or playing continuous audio streams like music, audiobooks and podcasts. Like if I'm in a vehicle with a screen that has popup notifications, maybe that's the only way I want those notifications while in the car. Or maybe while listening to audiobooks, music, or whatever, I may want the notifications to not pause the audio, but play concurrently, or only vibrate instead, or flash my phones flashlight, etc.

There should be other options between accept constant interruptions or cut off all contract from the outside world.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand, are you not able to just set your phone to silent? I get zero interruptions from notifications when my phone is on silent.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I don't want it silent. Still want calls and texts to come through. Just don't need to be inundated with them.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

They can also set preferences about which alerts to let through

[–] SlakrHakr@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not sure what phone os you use but some of what you’re describing is built into iOS’s “drive” focus. And it can automatically turn on when your phone connects to your car’s Bluetooth. I’ve been using it for years now.

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

am I the only one here that leaves do not disturb on at all times?

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 9 points 4 months ago

I switch between do not disturb and vibrate. Sound notifications are absolutely insane.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When I set my phone to vibration only, it still vibrates (obviously) but music or audiobooks aren't interrupted.

And if you're still waiting: it's the gardener. It's always the gardener

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

it's the gardener. It's always the gardener

Don't you dare besmirch the good name of Samwise Gamgee!

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Right, but you still have to manually change between notification sounds or vibrate only. Would be nice if there was a way to set it so that it did that by default when playing continuous audio streams. Or used other notifications methods like the flashlight strobe, or using your vehicle's screen when connected to it. I will also never need to have multiple pings happen back to back to back when I'm not actively using my phone, so a way to make it only ping once for a notification and ignore subsequent notifications for some time frame (say 30 seconds) when not actively using my phone screen would be lovely.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Android now allows you to set how many minutes need to be between two notifications of one App. Helps with such problems.

I also tend to just leave it on vibrate. That way I get notified, but my media keeps playing.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 7 points 4 months ago

In WhatsApp, you can simply mute a group or a person. That is of course not very convenient when you are driving.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do not disturb mode or driving mode may help

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I want my phone to still be reachable. I want to receive texts still, as well as calls. I just don't want to be inundated with interrupting notifications while trying to listen to something when I can't easily manipulate my phone.

They could make an optional setting to where after a notification pings, your phone won't ping for subsequent notifications for some time frame after, like, say, 30 seconds. They could also let you set default notification preferences when your phone is connected to Bluetooth in a car or playing continuous audio streams like music, audiobooks and podcasts. Like if I'm in a vehicle with a screen that has popup notifications, maybe that's the only way I want those notifications while in the car. Or maybe while listening to audiobooks, music, or whatever, I may want the notifications to not pause the audio, but play concurrently, or only vibrate instead, or flash my phones flashlight, etc.

There should be other options between accept constant interruptions or cut off all contract from the outside world.

[–] interpolate@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One time I had this happen while I was listening to one of the Emperor of Thorns books. The scene being described was of scrotal mutilation and my brother kept texting me during the reading.

I didn't want to hear about scrotal mutilation that many times.

Otherwise, excellent YA book series, audio or otherwise.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh lord, hahaha. Crossing my legs at the thought. Nice.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 4 months ago

Android will let you make a custom notification for a group. I don't know about iOS. (So you could turn the notifications off just for the one group, but still receive texts from other people like them individually.)

[–] Gingernate@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

This is real life hahahahhaha

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What would your ideal fix be? “Mute for one hour“, a prompt to pause notifications just for that chat until no sooner than audio is paused…?

Also would putting your phone on silent work? Maybe a “driving” focus mode if you’re on iOS where you allowlist only certain conversations…

([iOS] Nope can’t do that, maybe silent mode or muting that conversation it is… the latter of which can not be done with a shortcut!)

Room for improvement!

[–] Baylahoo@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

There was a feature I had on android several years ago where you could limit notification sounds by time. You could pick from 1 to like 10 minutes. The first one would ping you and the rest for that timeframe would be silent notifications until the timeframe ended and treated the next one like normal.

Edit: still a feature on the texting app I use, Textra. I like their features so much I paid for it and keep reverting back when trying stock or anything else. I'm sure there's some big flaw I don't know about since it's an old SMS app though.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

I think they added something like that in the newest android

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

🧠

Good stuff.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yes! I want this. Bring it back!

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My ideal fix would be waterboarding people who design apps that ping me every time someone that isn't me reacts to a comment that isn't mine in a group text I didn't start.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I fucking hate my family chats for this. My mom and my In-Laws all have iPhones, so of course they're always using the chat app reactions on everything. For some reason, that apparently means I need to receive said reaction as a separate text message on android. The text "Lexi: laughed at 'The dog farted'" never needs to be sent to my phone. Even worse is when we share baby photos or something and suddenly 20 instances of "Mom: Loved an image" "Adam: Laughed at an image" "Dad: Liked an image" start crowding out the actual conversation. I don't even know what specific images they're referencing! Why do I need those texts!? And don't get me started on the potato quality of videos because Apple refuses to use anything but their proprietary compression software and doesn't allow Android to properly decompress them.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What Android version are you on? Or perhaps which messaging app are you using?

Google started intercepting those reactions a couple of years ago. Do see if you can enable a "show iPhone reactions as emoji” option under some Advanced message settings.


Potato quality videos due to Apple’s absurdly greedy business practices may finally be resolved in iOS 18. s/o to Apple for waiting until European regulators turned the microscope on them to think about mitigating, amongst other things, some of the bullying the youngins get for “ruining” group chats by daring to have budget (or high-end but non-Apple) phones.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I use the messages app, I believe the default on Samsung phones. It's up to date on android version, 14. I'll look more into it to see if I can eliminate that annoyance.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One of the unsung advantages of being trans and having bigoted parents is not having to deal with that bullshit. I can't imagine loving and valuing my parents, that sounds like hell.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

This comment emits a very strange energy.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

You sure that’s a strong enough punishment?

Very silly it can’t be disabled - why not hide some advanced settings deep in iOS somewhere? Guess only 1% of people ever complain…

Speaking of complaining! They do care about their little feedback form:

apple.com/feedback (/messages-ios-ipados.html)

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can think of a few ways. If I'm driving, my phone is connected to my cars Bluetooth and alerts me to incoming texts visually with pop up on my dash screen. I would prefer if I could chose to have me notifications default to just a screen popup on the car instead of interrupting audio while they're connected. (the actual pop up blocks literally everything in the screen and never disappears until it is replaced by another popup or you press "ignore", which is terrible design, but that's toyota's fault not my phone's).

And at no time have I ever needed to have my phone ding back to back to back. I would also like the ability to set it to only ding once every, say, 30 seconds (let the user choose the time frame) if i haven't picked up my phone in between. If multiple notifications come up in that time, once was enough to let me know I have something waiting. I'll get to it when I get to it.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Great ideas!

I think I do like (at least vibrations) back to back cuz I think I’ll subconsciously count them and kinda understand the scale of what I’ll find when I can check the phone… but how long could that option take to add, I wonder. Mayyyybe it’s the regression testing / interop testing that it complicates, generally speaking?

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As others have suggest putting the phone in vibrate should prevent this issue.

But I think the correct approach is that the sounds should play overlapped. What the parent comment to yours was talking about was the preferred audio playback is paused so the intruding audio can be played, and then the podcast/audiobook will rewind for a second before restarting play. Just mix the audio from both together instead.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Not allowing android auto access to my text messages solved this issue.