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[–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 118 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Took me a second

They wouldn't call the year 59 bc in 59 bc

[–] Unbeelievable@beehaw.org 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They would probably not speak Modern English either.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Okay, honest question: what did they call it then, if anything?

Because it's not like they planned on counting down to the future "messiah's" birthday.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You have to look at non-Christian calendars.

It was 2275 in Korea.

It was 265 of the 33rd dynasty in Egypt.

It was 2 of the 180th Olympiad in Greece.

More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/59_BC

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

I like the Chinese version best

辛酉年 (Metal Rooster) 2639 or 2432

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Damn, so Korea went back in time? Or what are they on now? Did they hit 40K yet? Do they count in dog years? Do they inflate their numbers so it sounds cooler? Have the halfed it, when they split the country in half? I demand answers Korea!

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago

I now realise that I know absolutely nothing of Korean history

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 7 points 6 months ago

North Korea is at 113; they use their own calendar.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The Romans named their years after who was elected Consul that year. There were two Consuls, so you'd say "in the consulship of Jones and Smith". 59BC was Julius Caesar and some other guy. The other guy was so unimportant that Romans joked by calling it the consulship of "Julius and Caesar".

[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Humour like that makes ancient people so much more relatable.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Some humour transcends lifetimes, we were carving dicks into walls before the first century.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

"Three men, a greek, a roman and a celt each get an island.

The greek writes a book about flora and fauna of his island.

The roman, realising that the island does not need to be conquered, builds a house, a road to the shore and a statue to himself.

The celt starts a fight."

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In more official settings they would also use the year "ab Urbe condita", meaning "since the City's founding" (city being Rome).

59BC should be around 694 aUc if my numbers are right.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Depends on where in the world, but most dating systems were reginal, that is what year of what monarch/pharaoh/emperor's reign.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Depends on who's calendar... haha

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Same.. took me a moment. Then I realized in 59 B.C. it was like year 700 to them at that time (not literally 700.. just throwing a random number).

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 41 points 6 months ago (9 children)

So, what would somebody say the year was if they were asked at that point?

[–] Toes@ani.social 100 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A universal calendar hasn't been established yet so it would depend on where you are.

For example today in 59 BC under the Athenian calendar would be 17 of Thargelion, Ol.180.1

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

But that's a conversion that everyone knows anyways.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 6 months ago

Probably a celebrating Zeusdays

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Consulship of Caesar and Bibulus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/59_BC lists some options of how it would be called in various places

[–] mrmule@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In Egypt they would say the 8th year of Cleopatra VII Thea Philopator

[–] maculata@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No they wouldn’t. They would say something similar BUT IN OLDE WORLDY EGYPTIAN.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

59 BC is actually pretty close to coptic I'd bet for spoken language (though officially it wouldn't be called coptic with consistent Greek script until the third century). At least in the sense that vulgar Latin was close to Italian.

[–] maculata@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah but Mrmule was talking at us in English, see?

[–] runeko@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they would respond, "Get away from me, demon! Stop talking in tongues!"

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the concept of somebody speaking another language from you existed back then.

[–] runeko@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago

Get away from me, demon! Stop talking in tongues!

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wikipedia says 695 Ab urbe condita.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In the Roman empire it was also common to identify years by the names of the two consuls, because the consuls served one year terms.

Consuls continued to be elected through most of the empire period.

[–] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 13 points 6 months ago

The system would also work in the UK the past few years.

[–] azi@mander.xyz 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

How do we know they mean BC as in "Before Christ" and not BC as in "Before Cambrian?"

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because they're speaking modern English.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 7 points 6 months ago

Except that person is a time traveler, so they would be speaking modern English regardless

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Before he was famous or before he was infamous? 🤔

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Before" implies something hasn't happened yet, therefore if they know it's before "something" they must be a time traveller from some after C, whatever the C might be.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Or else, you didn't travel anywhere (anywhen?) and the first guy you bumped into is a wise-ass.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If he gave you the year 113 would you know that was our current year?

[–] Toes@ani.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Only if they gave you the full date, otherwise it could potentially be a lot of things still.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As in saying “Juche 113”?

I don’t think common people announce it that way

[–] Toes@ani.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not too familiar with the intricacies of that. I just did anthropology as an elective.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

North Korea counts years since the birth of Kim il Sung (their first leader/the revolutionary who stood up against Japanese occupation)