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[–] tranxuanthang@lemm.ee 135 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Hopefully I don't get many downvotes for this, but it isns't necessary to deny anything related to AI and bombard Mozilla for this. Sure, Copilot is a disaster, because it is a service and will call home to M$ and collect your data. But all of what Mozilla offers us is on-device AI, which is exceptional. I've been waiting so long for on-device AI-based webpage translation, so people don't need to rely on external services like Google or Bing to translate any more.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 6 months ago

Yeah, Mozilla is doing good work, and AI is here to stay. It's all about making and using AI ethically.

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same, their local translation tech is absolutely great! If they keep working "AI" features that are pretty much quality of life ML stuff I'm all in for it.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

didnt mozilla recently introduce on-device translation?

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 110 points 6 months ago (7 children)

We are approaching the use of AI in Firefox — which many, many of you have been asking about

Which one of you was it, who asked for AI in Firefox???

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 65 points 6 months ago

It looks like they are riding the AI wave to bring more features that are just good, local ML-based, and I'm all in for it. Firefox Translation is a great recent example, it's good.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

AI actually can be very good at translating things locally while keeping tone and intent, and thats what mozilla mentions here. I'm fully down with AI powered local translation tools native to firefox, it'll put it way above the competition

Some LLMs are low enough in resource usage to do this on weak and older PCs

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 months ago

when used to enhance accessibility? me. especially in this case where it's used for better alt text and descriptive text in pdfs, a tech that has long struggled with that.

[–] maeries@feddit.de 15 points 6 months ago

It's a useful technology. Would be stupid to ignore it

[–] VeryImportantUser@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Board of directors, I guess.

[–] walthervonstolzing@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

The chatbots, presumably.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 73 points 6 months ago (14 children)

Can’t wait for vertical tabs

[–] Emtity_13@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 6 months ago

Vertical slabs

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[–] Fizz 57 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"At Mozilla, we work hard to make Firefox the best browser for you. That’s why we’re always focused on building a browser.."

You don't need to lie to us. We are just happy you are finally working on browser features.

I'm looking forward to reducing ui clutter and profile improvements.

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I only need Firefox to load pages faster than Chrome

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good luck convincing people to switch to it based only on "it loads pages faster than Chrome" though. It's a good goal to have, but getting tunnel-visioned on it when their current speed in real world use is pretty comparable is definitely not a good long-term plan.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Soon, Firefox can block ads better than Chrome. Ads are annoying. I see Chrome losing at least a 5% of the market, if not more, to Firefox, just because they're going to break uBlock Origin, and Firefox isn't.

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not talking about pulling more people. I'm talking about my issue as an existing and looooong term user of Firefox. I started using a very low end phone recently, and Firefox vs Chrome on it is night and day difference. I don't notice it on my galaxy phone, but on low end devices it's torturous.

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

Oh, you mean FF for Android? Yeah, on that front it really needs a ton of work. On the desktop side things are pretty much fast to a point where in real world use the difference is minimal.

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[–] ouch@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Tab Grouping would be great if implented well.

[–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

kinda excited to see what their native vertical tabs will look like. i’ve been using sidebery for the past ~3 years and i’m extremely satisfied with it, i somehow doubt their native version will look as good

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 9 points 6 months ago

Same but for tab groups. I can't believe it took this long and every extension-based alternative is busted in some fundamental way.

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[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

Holy shit, it is. I'm really hoping that includes mobile, since it's the only thing keeping me using a Chromium browser

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[–] 001@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I just want HDR video support

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[–] zecg@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Pretty please, fuck off with the AI. It's really not something I need from a browser, don't inflate your download size for a screen reader, just MAKE IT OPTIONAL in every way.

[–] robber@lemmy.ml 46 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I totally agree regarding making it optional, but I have to say the idea of auto generating alt texts sounds like a really useful application of AI - no one really likes to do that manually yet a significant number of beautiful people rely on it.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot of doom and gloom online about this, but to me these seem like welcome changes 🤷

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This has actually been the most positive reaction to a Firefox announcement I've seen in a long time. I've yet to find a piece of open source software users act more toxic towards than Firefox. It is impossible to find any Firefox-related announcement in recent years that's received broadly positive feedback. For a long time, the top voted comment would always be someone demanding tab groups or vertical tabs. Now they're adding those, which is probably why the reaction has been a bit more positive. But of course, AI and UI changes have become the new things to complain about.

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[–] derpgon@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago

Finally, the only two features I've been missing - tab groups and profiles. With all the modern internet browser stones, we'll be unstoppable!

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

More streamlined menus that reduce visual clutter and prioritize top user actions so you can get to the important things quicker.

So make things even harder to find? A classic menu bar is not clutter!

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[–] Railison@aussie.zone 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Reading pages out loud has been an unexpected hit for me on the latest iOS. I’d love this in Firefox too.

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