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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 147 points 5 months ago (2 children)

LIED. He LIED, CNN. Say it!

“Falsely claimed” for fuck's sake, you spineless republiQan sewer holes.

It’s been almost a goddamned decade CNN! WaPo? NYT? Looking at all you “falsely claimed” motherfuckers. When are you going to grow up? Hm? When are you going to actually do the work of journalism instead of your paper-thin republiQan brigading?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

"Lied" implies intent, which is a very squishy subject. I'd prefer they stick to just the facts, please. I'm no lawyer, but I suspect you might be asking for libel suits if you claim somebody lied and can't actually prove that they did so intentionally.

[–] alilbee@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (15 children)

They accuse them of bad journalism. Supposing intent you can't prove is the definition of bad journalism. People need to temper their instinctual emotions a bit. I'm upset about Trump being a serial liar too (which I can say, because I'm a nobody who can totally infer his intent) but cmon, can we not leave the very foundations of factual journalism in the dust in our quest to right that wrong?

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let me get this straight: You're not sure whether Trump did deliberately claim that he didn't say, repeatedly, often, publicly, on the TV and on social media "lock her up"? You think he accidentally denied saying it, or you have come to doubt your recollection of "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"?

[–] Ozymati 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm thinking it doesn't matter what we think, it matters which one could accrue expensive court costs. Because "false claim" is specific and provable, "lied" is murky and general. When it comes to libel and slander lawsuits, the legal system runs on semantics and pedantry.

Why should they open themselves to that kind of legal system enabled retribution? After all, we all know whose pants are on fire.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

tHeY hAvE tO bE oBjEcTiVe.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 98 points 5 months ago (12 children)

We have the many videos. There's probably a compilation on YouTube of him starting lock her up chants.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 80 points 5 months ago

"It doesn't matter, it was all AI generated by Antifa. Real Men Wear Diapers!"

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and this is why AI/deepfakes are so scary.

It isn't just that there might be fake stuff out there. it's that real stuff could get called fake. ("I didn't say that. Deep fake FAKE NEWS FaKe NeWs!!!!")

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 40 points 5 months ago (8 children)

If they can convince themselves to believe he never said it, I'm going to just assume Trumpism isn't politics so much as mental illness.

[–] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Always has been.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I mean.... in large part, I'm already there.

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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago

His supporters wear the damn shirts

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 71 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He real scared about that sentencing.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago
[–] alilbee@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago

Even for Trump, this one is a lot. It was essentially his campaign slogan. He didn't just say it, he led chants of it in front of crowds.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Breaking News: Lying liar lies some more lies.

More at 11.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

more at eleven

Seriously. He can’t STFU to save his life.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

That you reject the evidence of your eyes and ears is Trump's essential command.

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump is easy to understand:

Trump opens mouth -> Trump lies.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Read this earlier today and it just blew my mind… I mean, he said it during a bunch of his rallies and invented the “lock her up” thing

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If Trump is claiming something, falsely is how he is going to do it.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

If it's worth claiming, it's worth falsely claiming

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

those fake videos aren’t me. Those are deep fakes from the deep state. I don’t remember saying that! No one I know, good people, remember that. This is the first time I’ve heard of Hillary Clinton!!

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Proof of senility or a bald faced lie.

Either way, just one more reason he's unfit.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Of course he said that. How is anyone even surprised at this point? Since Day 1 he's been saying whatever he wants to be true at the time - creating his own "reality" - and his base goes with it. He's never been burdened by the truth, and there's been no repercussions for his flagrant lying. Yes, this is an outrageous lie, but even in that it's unremarkable.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean at this point does this clown remember like 80% of the shit he's said??

[–] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'd like to have someone ask him to name all of his children out of the blue.

I bet he'd get three, maybe four.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

Republicans are NOT in a Cult and TOTALLY think for Themselves and they BELIEVE this while wearing "Lock Her Up" shirts!

[–] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 months ago

"I didn't say that forty thousand times during the 2016 election!"

[–] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

One of the memes that has followed Trump for almost a decade is “Lock her up!” Is he truly this lost that he forgot one of the things he ran for president (and won) chanting?

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

That is a complete lie.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former President Donald Trump falsely claimed in a new interview that he didn’t make a “lock her up” call for the imprisonment of his Democratic opponent of the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton.

Trump, who faces the possibility of a prison sentence after he was convicted last week on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, was asked in an interview aired Sunday on Fox News about how he had “famously said… ‘lock her up’” in relation to Clinton but did not jail her when he was president.

Facts First: Trump’s claim that “I didn’t say ‘lock her up’” is false.

He called for Clinton’s imprisonment on multiple occasions, including by using the phrase “lock her up.”

Trump often used such rhetoric while criticizing Clinton’s email practices as secretary of state during the Obama administration, which prompted a federal investigation.

Trump also explicitly called for Clinton’s imprisonment using different phrasing.


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