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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 82 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hope that's true, but I have my doubts.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This particular trial covers events that happened during his presidency. Unless she says "Fuck it!" and declares most of his actions to be unofficial (which Trump will appeal) then there's going to be some serious gaps in evidence.

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This particular kind of hearing might not necessarily need to conclude before the election to be impactful. Trump's lawyers arguing with a straight face that his alleged attempt at subverting the election was actually an official act just before the election could be fairly damaging on their own.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

None of that shit will matter to the voters. There are exactly two ways we will not see Trump in office again. 1. Voters. 2. He dead.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago

I said it before and I’ll say it again. I’ll fucking believe it when I see it.

So far all I’ve seen is someone blatantly breaking the law and only ever getting a finger wagged in their general direction. Our government has never looked so impotent.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 59 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Biden apparently has the power to just have Trump, the SCOTUS judges, and every other piece of shit taking this country right down the fucking toilet put to death and this ruling has made me wish he would do it.

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[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Hey guys, stupid question. With the supreme Court going haywire... Is there anything I can do other than vote? What are our options here? How do we change?

I'm depressed and frustrated.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Technically, you can go on a killing spree. But that's not exactly legal. Well, at least for us plebs.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If I get cancer, I will eventually die. Hypothetically speaking, I may be looking for afterlife buddies that are worse people than me so I can feel better about myself comparatively

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Maybe the afterlife sorting is graded on a curve.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Run for office (mostly too late at this time of year), donate to campaigns or PACs, volunteer at the polls (making sure things are on the up and up), join protests, start boycotts for companies that support fascists, call people in your area to make sure they know about deadlines and locations, volunteer to work for a campaign, or get a job in government (ensure duties are being performed by the law). That's only the stuff you can legally do.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I feel like my life shouldn't have to revolve around making sure dickheads aren't going to ruin everything.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

A perfect summary of the Human Condition.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

That thought is exactly why dickheads have ended up ruining everything.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I feel like we're beyond defending democracy only when it's convenient.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The answer has always been to vote. This country was founded on good faith and the naive belief that people would work for the common good. Your only recourse is to make sure that people who think that way are in power.

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I've been trying bud :(

[–] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago

Gotta start local and work your way up. The system is fundamentally flawed. There are many problems, but the most fixable is the voting and representation systems, which can usually be changed at the local level through referendum. Approval Voting is an easy fix with big impact and when applied to multi-winner elections you can use a proportional variant to get proportional results in the legislature. Both of these changes would reduce polarization and make it easier for third parties to get in office. With more than two parties in power, the parties have to start working together and compromising on things, instead of just obstructing until they're the majority and then jamming through partisan bullshit. But you gotta start local. Run a referendum campaign, switch your local elections to Approval, and work your way up.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

That depends on whether you value your own life more than you value the principles that we were led to believe America was founded on.

The discontent that led to the American Revolution didn't start overnight, but someone fired the first shot when the British were coming to confiscate the cannon that the colonists had collected.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago

Ah, well, you know those Trump supporters, always being swayed by facts and evidence.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago
[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

We've probably already seen the major stuff from the house committees investigation. If this does anything, it will only make it a little more fresh

[–] bquintb@midwest.social 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

They're circling him, won't be long now ... /s

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 4 months ago

EL oh el. Nothing backfires on Trump. His nickname is Teflon don for a reason. If anything his approval ratings will increase.

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

"All the evidence is about to come out"

So, like, in 10-30 years?

Trump had legal issues that should have been processed (expedited) before he was 'elected' in 2016.

[–] numbermess@fedia.io 8 points 4 months ago

Ah. Nevertheless,

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