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So yeah, anyone else have a harder time getting out of bed than should be reasonable?

Like, sure I have insomnia issues at times, but most of the time I'm fine on the falling asleep end - it's just getting up that's difficult.

First - I don't think my ADHD part of my brain wants to let go of all the fantastic things that happen in lucid dreams.

Second - no matter what I do, I never seem to feel rested in the morning anymore. Weekends can see me sleeping 10+ hours before I feel a semblance of "normal".

Some might say "oh you should just get up and get started" and I do sometimes! But you just might find me dozing off in a chair a couple hours later.

FWIW - It's been like this most of my adult life. Ever since adolescence particularly. You could find me napping, completely upright, in the back of a classroom. (My teachers never cared because I'd still come in the next day and ace the finals/midterms).

I desperately miss the perceived energy of my youth. I'd be up at 4AM to watch super early cartoons (Sonic, Sailor Moon, Animaniacs - in that order) and never felt the need for a nap in the day. It wouldn't even matter if I feel asleep late back then - getting up was just that much easier.

Anyone here with similar issues? How do you cope?

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[–] solivine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you sure this is autism related? You could be lacking a vitamin or hormone or there could be something else going on. Just an idea, otherwise not sure.

[–] SameOldJorts@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, please OP, check those vitamin D levels, B levels and thyroid. I have issues waking up too, and all my stuff is within range so I feel ya. I love my bed.

The only thing that propels me out of bed is the new puppy jumping on top of me at 7am for breakfast because she can’t stop, won’t stop. Have you tried a puppy? (Kidding)

[–] th3raid0r@tucson.social 3 points 1 year ago

Had puppy, can confirm, they are effective at this. Just can't have a puppers at the moment... but soon I can!

In the meantime I guess I should just keep my door open so that my cats can just stroll in and demand breakfast.

I'll still feel like crap, but at least I'll be UP!

[–] th3raid0r@tucson.social 2 points 1 year ago

Oh sure, I tend to go every 5 years to complain at my GP about this. All clear on D and B levels. Same with thyroid.

Although I only received my ASD/ADHD diagnosis in the last few months - perhaps that's something my GP would find helpful in continuing to figure this out...

[–] ScriptaManent@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Find a significant purpose in your waking life. Dreams will become a training place. https://discuss.online/c/lucid_dreamers

[–] th3raid0r@tucson.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks friend! I appreciate you seeing that I wasn't soo much complaining about my health or quality of sleep, but my inability to get out of lucid dreaming.

[–] ScriptaManent@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can relate. I spent some teenage years in depression because I valued dreams over waking life.

[–] th3raid0r@tucson.social 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, it doesn't feel like a value assessment as much as my brain pulls an inception and I'll "Get up" only to realize I've just started simulating my day in another layer of lucid dreams. Sometimes I'll eventually get up and be kinda frustrated that I have to do all the work "twice", lol.

[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My dude/tte, you're living the dream.

Pun very much intended.

Seriously speaking though. Sleep is quite complicated. You should try examining the most common issues, such as diet, lack of exercise, stress, getting relatively stable periods of receiving sunlight. If you try to solve the most obvious issues with no result, you'll have a better chance of getting a doctor to listen to you if the root cause is more complicated.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

You might want to consider asking your doctor about getting a sleep study done to rule out sleep apnea or other sleep disorders. If everything seems normal on blood work too, is it possible your sensory needs are consistently not being met? I become exhausted when I’m unable to stim for a few hours, and when I was younger and trying to not stim at all the exhaustion was constant.

[–] Seven@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If drinking coffee, try cutting it down to see if a lowered tolerance can be helpful
Try practicing sleep hygiene practices, like with dream pillows, ambiences, dawn machines etc
If ADHD, try to use stimulating but not waking things like eucalyptol smell instead of lavender - not coffee or something different (you can try microdosing on adhd meds before sleeping)
Try to sleep one cycle below instead of sleeping a full time, if sleeping 11 hrs 30 mins, try 10 hrs (this didn't work for me)
try previous suggestion but also meditate 10-20 mins (ik, impossible challenge) to compenstate for the lost slep as meditation is really good at making up for a few hours of sleep, either lost sleep or maybe for hypersomnic attacks
Take on a light polyphasic sleep to just nudge your brain balance, to see if that changes things (not uberman or anything lol, just siesta maybe- a week only, sleep time over 5hrs, or try a "hypersomic" polyphasic sleeping schedule https://www.polyphasic.net/hypersomnia/ - also polyphasic sleep may not be too benefitial, be careful)
if all else fails, try shocking your nipples under cold water. If one of these or something different works, please tell me since I also suffer from very similar problems as well

spoilerYou get to see lucid dreams? Lol

[–] Seven@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Blood flow may be a problem- hypersomnia causes less blood flow to the cns- try taking up on regular aerobic exercises and mild blood thinner supplements like ginkgo / ginseng (ask your doctor idk) for better flow, also see sunlight more often, it is good for many of us