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[-] glimse@lemmy.world 104 points 2 years ago

Copilot may be a stupid LLM but the human in the screenshot used an apostrophe to pluralize which, in my opinion, is an even more egregious offense.

It's incorrect to pluralizing letters, numbers, acronyms, or decades with apostrophes in English. I will now pass the pedant stick to the next person in line.

[-] Beanie@programming.dev 43 points 2 years ago

That's half-right. Upper-case letters aren't pluralised with apostrophes but lower-case letters are. (So the plural of 'R' is 'Rs' but the plural of 'r' is 'r's'.) With numbers (written as '123') it's optional - IIRC, it's more popular in Britain to pluralise with apostrophes and more popular in America to pluralise without. (And of course numbers written as words are never pluralised with apostrophes.) Acronyms are indeed not pluralised with apostrophes if they're written in all caps. I'm not sure what you mean by decades.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago

By decades they meant "the 1970s" or "the 60s"

I don't know if we can rely on British popularity, given y'all's prevalence of the "greengrocer's apostrophe."

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Never heard of the greengrocer's apostrophe so I looked it up. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-a-greengrocers-apostrophe-1690826

I absolutely love that there's a group called the Apostrophe Protection Society. Is there something like that for the Oxford Comma? I'd gladly join them!

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I will die on both of those hills alongside you.

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[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago
[-] bisby@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Because otherwise if you have too many small letters in a row it stops looking like a plural and more like a misspelled word. Because capitalization differences you can make more sense of As but not so much as.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I salute your pedantry.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

English is a filthy gutter language and deserves to be wielded as such. It does some of its best work in the mud and dirt behind seedy boozestablishments.

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[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 73 points 2 years ago

Plenty of fun to be had with LLMs.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago
[-] tektite@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 years ago

ADHD contains twelve "r's"

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[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 51 points 2 years ago
[-] LEONHART@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 years ago

I instinctively read that in Homestar Runner's voice.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
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Welp, it's reached my level of intelligence.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

Aww, C'mon, don't sell yourself short like that, I'm sure you're great at..... Something....

For example, you would probably be way more useful than an AI, if there was a power outage.

[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 32 points 2 years ago

“Create a python script to count the number of r characters are present in the string strawberry.”

The number of 'r' characters in 'strawberry' is: 2

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

You need to tell it to run the script

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is hardly programmer humor… there is probably an infinite amount of wrong responses by LLMs, which is not surprising at all.

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[-] kubica@fedia.io 25 points 2 years ago

5% of the times it works every time.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago

You can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 45% of all people know that.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

I was curious if (since these are statistical models and not actually counting letters) maybe this or something like it is a common "gotcha" question used as a meme on social media. So I did a search on DDG and it also has an AI now which turned up an interestingly more nuanced answer.

It's picked up on discussions specifically about this problem in chats about other AI! The ouroboros is feeding well! I figure this is also why they overcorrect to 4 if you ask them about "strawberries", trying to anticipate a common gotcha answer to further riddling.

DDG correctly handled "strawberries" interestingly, with the same linked sources. Perhaps their word-stemmer does a better job?

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Lmao it's having a stroke

[-] sus@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

many words should run into the same issue, since LLMs generally use less tokens per word than there are letters in the word. So they don't have direct access to the letters composing the word, and have to go off indirect associations between "strawberry" and the letter "R"

duckassist seems to get most right but it claimed "ouroboros" contains 3 o's and "phrasebook" contains one c.

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[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 years ago

"it is possible to train 8 days a week."

-- that one ai bot google made

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[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Ladies and gentlemen: The Future.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

There ARE two "R"s in strawberry.

There's also a third one, but you can't have three without having two.

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

Boy, your face is red like a strawbrerry.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Jesus hallucinatin' christ on a glitchy mainframe.

I'm assuming it's real though it may not be but - seriously, this is spellcheck. You know how long we've had spellcheck? Over two hundred years.

This? This is what's thrown the tech markets into chaos? This garbage?

Fuck.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

I was just thinking about Microsoft Word today, and how it still can't insert pictures easily.

This is a 20+ year old problem for a program that was almost completely functional in 1995.

[-] cypherix93@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

"strawberry".split('').filter(c => c === 'r').length

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

len([c if c == 'r' for c in "strawberry"])

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[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Q: "How many r are there in strawberry?"

A: "This question is usually answered by giving a number, so here's a number: 632. Mission complete."

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago

Using a token predictor to do sub-token analysis produces bad results?!?! Shocking Wow great content

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

maybe it’s using the british pronunciation of “strawbry”

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Garbage in, garbage out. Keep feeding it shit data, expect shit answers.

[-] portuga@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

There’s a simple explanation: LLMs are “R” agnostic because they were specifically trained to not sail the high seas

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

To be fair, I knew a lot of people who struggled with word problems in math class.

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