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Don’t Ask AI Which Rocks You Can Lick. (www.proofnews.org)
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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For instance, when it came to rock licking, Gemini, Mistral’s Mixtral, and Anthropic’s Claude 3, generally recommended avoiding it, offering a smattering of safety issues like “sharp edges” and “bacterial contamination” as deterrents.

OpenAI’s GPT-4, meanwhile, recommended cleaning rocks before tasting. And Meta’s Llama 3 listed several “safe to lick” options, including quartz and calcite, though strongly recommended against licking mercury, arsenic, or uranium-rich rocks.

All of this seems like perfectly reasonable advice and reasoning. Quartz and calcite are inert, they're safe to lick. Sharp edges and bacterial contamination are certainly things you should watch out for, and cleaning would help. Licking mercury, arsenic, and uranium-rich rocks should indeed be strongly recommended against. I'm not sure where the problem is.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Without getting into whether or not AI is actually useful technology or not, there are a lot of people that have decided they hate it, and want to lambast it at every opportunity. So they ask it really stupid questions, the sort of questions that a 4-year-old asks you repeatedly, then report what it answers as if their stupid question in some way devalues the AI.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I still don't understand why people are asking these things any questions at all.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Google has been rolling out a thing where an AI result is the first thing that pops up, often taking up the whole screen lol. I’ve personally witnessed tons of people google something normally, then just go with whatever the AI says.

Makes me shake my head, but it’s not like they were very discerning with their sources before all this nonsense, either. Hopefully they don’t rely on it for any important medical advice down the road

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Duckduckgo just did that to me! I was not expecting them to hitch a ride on the bandwagon. Makes me sad.

[–] nepenthes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Your comment reminded me:

I was looking up when the VP debate is in the US, lamenting the olden days when a bolded date would simply appear at the top of the results.

I'm just clicking results and skimming for the date in the 1st paragraph, but nope. Every site is like fucking recipe pages now with this nonsense filler.

Anyways, third result down, DDG gives me this verbose MSN bot-written trash. It actually listed all the dates (of which there were four), that were considered for the debate, but not selected. The 5th date listed in the paragraph was the debate date.

It was a perfect example of completely useless information that a human would never consider including in an answer.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

You've never asked my mum a question.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Yes! Search results used to just be the answer, and then each result further done would be slightly off. Now it's all a mess.

[–] trollblox_@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that Google AI is so shit. I just paraphrases the top result

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't paraphrasing/summarizing the top result a pretty good use case for LLMs? If I search "what temperature should I bake cupcakes at?" I really just want a simple answer, not dozens of links to life story style recipe blogs.

DDG didn't provide a summary, but Google did (and it was very long). I assumed the answer was 350F, but the summary suggested 325-375. Lower for flatter cupcakes, higher for more domed. Interesting.

This type of summary wouldn't be nearly as helpful for a technical programming question, but I doubt that describes the bulk of search queries.

[–] trollblox_@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

I wasn't arguing about it's accuracy, I was attacking it's need to exist. fuck AI, I'm tired of hearing that acronym. can't wait for this shit to go away like every tech fad in the last decade

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's already happening.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

If lawyers have been caught using it for briefs, you can be certain there's people in the medical field doing the same.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They make filling out a tabletop campaign easy. Idk why people are using them for serious applications.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used it to write a kickass counteroffer for an internal job promotion. I was pissed off with the offer and wrote out what I REALLY thought. I asked GPT to clean it up and respond with and upbeat and positive response where I'm eager to work with them.

ChatGPT about to help me get an $18k raise.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

This is one guy I work with and he really pisses me off, he's so stupid and he does so many dumb things that waste my time, so I also have to use chat GPT to be a liaison between me and him otherwise I'll probably get fired for being unprofessional.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah. That's the difference people don't seem to understand.

AI is perfect for stuff that's just made up bullshit anyway.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Something like that yeah, that makes sense. Similarly I view ai art generation as a brainstorming tool, but not a final product.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because the vast majority of the time it's correct and often extremely useful.

For example, I spent 20 minutes looking for a solution yesterday with no luck and CGPT spit it out in 3 seconds, and it worked.

Yes, AI will give bad outputs, but if you're not dumb enough to put glue on your pizza, or not actually verify important information, you'll be fine.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

The glue on pizza thing is really stupid because it's the only one AI that advises that. All the others do not advise putting glue on pizza.

The presence of one stupid person in your school does not make everyone else stupid. Fortunately, because there's always one stupid kid

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago

Because it Illustrates how fucking stupid someone has to be to take AI seriously in any relevant way.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago

My initial thought was, "that title can end after the 3rd word."

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Instead of posting here, you should just ask an AI this. It will tell you!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

It said:

DuckAssist.
BETA.

People ask AI questions to leverage its ability to process and analyze large amounts of data quickly, providing insights and answers that can help solve problems or make informed decisions. Additionally, asking AI questions can enhance creativity and innovation by prompting new ideas and perspectives.

More in AI Can Help You Ask Better Questions — and Solve B... from Harvard Business Review and The Art of Asking the Right Questions in the Age o... from mcchrystalgroup.com.

Auto-generated based on listed sources. Responses may contain inaccuracies.
Auto-generated based on listed sources. Responses may contain inaccuracies.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ask if you want but I’m not sure if the question is ability or suvivability. You can lick anything once. Just might regret it.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If you can somehow lick a gas, more power to you.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any element can be made into a state you can eat, drink, or breathe. Doesn’t mean you’ll survive the attempt, nor even properly get to attempt it.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Making any of these gasses lickable kind of renders the green invalid.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Just flop your mouth open and close like a fish.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Oh you said gas…. Sorry I misunderstood for a second.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 1 week ago

I'd argue in the states you can lick those you really shouldn't because it will instantly freeze your tongue off

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How cold do you need to get to achieve solid nitrogen?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In 1 atmosphere of pressure no temperature is cold enough. You can do it if you put it in a vacuum chamber and cool it down to about -200c

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Absolutely bonkers, that definitely shouldn't be safe to lick.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can lick any rock if you're brave enough. ;)

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Just this one time

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

This reminds me of that "all mushrooms are edible, at least once" thing.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 1 week ago

You can lick all of them.

What happens after you do isn't part of the question.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you look up HAARP Gemini will tell you that the center is surrounded in conspiracy theories and that they do not have the ability to control the weather.

But the last sentence says "effects by HAARP are nullified in seconds after shutting the machine off."

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"geologyj"

[–] Licksrocks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They're all fair game

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mmm, my favorite flavor rock is uranium 238

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

Always fun because if you lick it too forcefully it'll explode. Not that it will make much difference to you.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

Well, now I'm gonna. You can't tell me what to do! /s

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

They all can lick my rock...
;-)