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[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Rewriting the headling: "Most Americans Don't Understand Nuance."

Article body, summarized: "People are too stupid to understand that you can disagree with a candidate's stance but still recognize that they're a better choice than the fascist, sexist, predatory, federally indicted criminal."

News at 11.

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep. It's like how you say "I'm voting for Harris but I don't like her track record of issues important to me, but she's not Trump and that's what matters." and people instantly harass you into being okay with fracking and murder.

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I feel like a lot of this is Russian bots stirring shit up, Israel is the perfect thing to get people not to vote at all, which is exactly what they want, that's basically a vote for trump but people are either too privileged or stupid to realize it

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

Hey I'm voting for Harris, I just think its important to call out bad takes from anyone, including those who I vote for. I do it for my local and my federal offices. I email my republican congress members (they don't respond beyond the default robot reply) and I complain to my democratic senators.

[–] swunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anything I don't like is foreign interference, I'm okay with voting for a candidate that endorses genocide, anyone that doesn't share my views is stupid

Hell yeah brother. I'm also proud to be a part of the freest country in the universe. 👏More👏trans👏drone👏pilots👏

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Genocide or fascism+genocide, pick one, because those are your two choices at the moment, and not picking counts as a vote for fascism+genocide

Grow up

[–] swunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I live in one of the reddest states in the country, my vote literally doesn't matter. Thanks democracy

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Most Americans Don't Understand Nuance."

Most people, regardless of nationality, don't understand nuance. That's why Winston Churchill once said that the biggest argument against democracy is talking to an average person for five minutes.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

God damnit, I knew someone would do this. Case in point this is specifically about the American elections, therefore the nuanced implication refers to that.

Yes, this can be extended. But you're now being inclusive of the rest of the world's shortcomings for what? The article is about Chappell Roan and the morons bitching about her not endorsing Kamala. Not voters in the UK.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Typical American think their experience is the only universal truth and their group only matters in any discussion.

American exceptionalism never fails; as if Americans are the only ones getting the same problem.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't argue against that. Nor was it the topic of the article. But go on...

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Another correction of the headline:

“Y'all Cannot Actually Be This Stupid”: an argument on how people are, in fact, this stupid.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure they can. That’s part of how we got here in the first place.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It certainly doesn't help that most democrats see any criticism of Kamala as tacit support of Trump.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There’s criticism, and then there’s “democrats and Harris are horrible genocidal people and you are supporting genocide if you vote for them” criticism.

I don’t know of anyone making reasonable and realistic criticism getting downvoted.

[–] xgranade@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

I mean, the trouble is that voting for Democrats does literally support genocide, if only because every president and presidential candidate in modern history has promised and/or enacted genocidal policies. When talking about US politics and genocide, the bar is so low, it's in hell.

The nuance to all of the above is that voting for Republicans supports genocide even more. It's entirely valid to vote for less genocide amongst several genocidal options, and also to call said genocide out.

[–] cristo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, they certain arent trying hard enough to not look like genocide supporters

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

As if literally on cue...