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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Bad faith actors are out here trying to channel energy into a psuedo-democracy instead of participating in bottom up politics.

If you care about stopping fascism, join a socialist org. Donald Trump isn't some anomaly, he is a result of systemic economic forces that bring imperialist violence back to our shores as global resistance makes our imperial influence overseas wane. Democrats (the people who control the democratic party, not like, voters) do not want to bring an end to the system that creates this phenomenon, they directly profit from it.

You can't base your opposition to fascism by voting for a party that supports the conditions that are creating fascism. I dont care who you vote for, go hog wild, but join a socialist org if you care about stopping fascism in the long term.

[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Why are the centrists so antagonistic this week ?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Sorry, guys. I'm voting for the only candidate that can end global warming.

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[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where are all the Russian plants, oops I mean true progressives, at to tell us we’re just not leftist or progressive enough and Jill is totally definitely only ever trying to improve things for the country, ignoring her meeting with Putin and aides, and also Kamala is literally no different than Trump! Universalmonk, verdantbanana….i need you to straighten OP out! /s

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Jill is too mainstream, I've voting for Rachele Fruit of the Socialist Workers Party!

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Vermin Supreme for Every Elected Position 2024. The one true choice.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was gonna try and write a comment 1upping you because I didn't think Rachele Fruit was a real person, but then I decided to look her up just to double-check. Nope! She's actually a real person.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She's the next President of the United States

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you only care about the duopoly or third parties every 4 years when the Presidential election rolls around, then I regret to inform you but you have fallen for a grift.

If you actually gave a shit about breaking the binary you'd be boots on the ground working to legitimatize third-parties where they're actually viable - local and smaller scale elections.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

The mind reels at how many properly decent and intelligent people have had their political career stillborn because all these "superior" asshole non-voters never bothered to cast ballots for School Board and City Council on up the electoral ladder.

But you see... that would require... making an effort. And we can't have that, now can we? God forbid! That would mean... soiling those pure, innocent, silky-smooth hands with actual democracy homework.

They'd always much rather sit their lazy, ignorant asses at home, lovingly yet distractedly fondling their purity, then sniffing their fingers.

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[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

A trolley barrels towards a bunch of construction workers stuck on the tracks.

  • If you pull the first lever it will divert and only kill one person.
  • If you don't pull the first lever it will kill 100 people, including that one person from before - he's standing before the track change.
  • But, and now this is key, there is a second lever to the right of the first that says "Display lever only, does nothing." It does nothing.


What do you do?

[–] anas@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

The trolley problem does not have a correct answer, and a very popular way of thinking is that “if I do not engage the lever, whatever happens next is not my responsibility. If I divert, I will have killed that one person.”

I’m not American, not here to tell anyone who to vote for

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

You blame someone else. It's definitely not your fault, it definitely cannot be that.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I couldn't possibly pull either lever, that would put blood on my hands! Instead I spend all day on Lemmy urging everyone to pull the display lever. This is different from me touching any levers directly, because reasons.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

Get on the tracks with them. We die together.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they spent that energy campaigning for election reform instead of harassing Lemmy users I’d find it more convincing.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And vote in every local election. So change can happen. I doubt they even do that.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe the most egregious example of this was something I saw yesterday, which was somebody saying "Tim Walz needs to go vegan". When pressed about why him and not, say, Donald Trump, they said that people on the left and center were more likely to actually be swayed. It wasn't worth engaging any further, but I thought it was pretty hilarious that they bothered to try to push the 60-year-old VP candidate to go vegan, but not the 40-year-old VP candidate. Like, you know that you're not pushing the needle for anybody with that post, right?

It's about as useless as making a post saying that JD Vance should hang dry his clothes instead of wasting energy running a clothes dryer.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

Suggesting it's easier to convince a Midwestern football coach/car dad to go vegan than an NYC germaphobe is a level of optimism I have never seen

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Look pal, the general said “sow division” amongst whatever socio-political lines we can see, ok? Why Do You Hate Black Vegan Catholics???

(/s obl.)

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

Third parties are obviously the way any intelligent person may choose to vote. This video explains why they are currently not viable in America. Ranked choice voting has to come before third parties. It's not a moral thing, it's voting math.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Gonna vote third party as soon as the Democrats and Republicans implement ranked choice voting

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 18 points 1 week ago

They’re not here in good faith and I don’t believe they ever were.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Discouraging 3rd party voting hurts democrats more than anyone. Studies show that 3rd party presidential candidates largely bring out people that would not have voted otherwise and largely benefit the democratic party down-ballot.

Don't tell your apolitical friend about how they shouldn't vote for Cornel. Don't tell your friend about how voting for a 3rd party is pointless. Don't tell your friend to vote for your person. Tell them to vote.

Edit: here's my receipt.

Independent voters supported Democratic candidates over Republican candidates, 49% to 47%, according to the exit poll by Edison Research for CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS. According to the AP VoteCast survey for The Wall Street Journal and Fox News, independents supported Democrats over Republicans, 42% to 38% ... While independents nationally voted for Democratic candidates by just 2 points, they supported Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly over Republican challenger Blake Masters by 16 points, Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock over Republican Herschel Walker by 11 points (in the Nov. 8 election), and, for senator from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman over Republican Mehmet Oz by a whopping 20 points. ( My note on Fetterman, this was before the stroke)

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And from a casual perspective, telling people their vote is pointless is (a) a way to show them you're an asshole, (b) mostly pointless, and (c) quite possibly true regardless of how they vote.

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[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

ITT: people skipping over the 39 days bit. Time and place. Let's save the Republic then we work on everything else.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Where’s that universalmonk blyat?

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

You can’t call any of them by name, unlike Beetlejuice. You have to post something positive, even mildly so, about the Harris/Walz campaign. Then all the little rats come scurrying over to tell you how you’re a genocide stan and any real American should be voting for Cornoliverill Stein de la Fruit, and it’s definitely not because daddy Putin said so.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

look i have had the choice for with or without lube for half a century now. Thing is saying I don't want to get sodomized at all just results in the default of without lube. I hate it with lube but I really, really hate it without.

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