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Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) on Wednesday said 2024 will be the last election “decided by ballots rather than bullets” if former President Trump doesn’t win the presidential race because of his various legal battles.

In the latest episode of his show on TBN, Huckabee argued the legal woes now facing Trump are part of a politically motivated scheme from the Biden administration, an argument touted by many in the former president’s orbit.

“If these tactics end up working to keep Trump from winning or even running in 2024, it is going to be the last American election that will be decided by ballots rather than bullets,” Huckabee warned in his opening monologue.

Huckabee accused President Biden and his team of trying “to make sure that Donald Trump is not his opponent in 2024″ and “to destroy Trump in the courthouse rather than at the ballot box.” He also alleged the Justice Department, the IRS and the FBI are “conspiring to hide the Biden family crimes, while all the time being obsessed with charging Donald Trump with crimes.”

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 388 points 3 years ago

Arrest him for fomenting insurrection.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 126 points 3 years ago

Seriously. They're just gonna keep doing this dancing on the edges bullshit until someone comes down on them fucking hard.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 75 points 3 years ago

The Prison Boys leader who just got 22 years in prison admitted he knew all along that Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump did not win the election. The media needs to point out the obvious. That the Prison Boys and Oathbreakers are Tory militia groups who were trying to destroy the Founding Father's government and reestablish a dictatorship/monarchy.

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[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee 19 points 3 years ago

Or a bunch of idiots kill a bunch of people.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

No, that's what they're counting on. That certainly wouldn't stop them since that's the point of the entire exercise. Although this particular example comes dangerously close to dancing over the line into incitement if it doesn't already.

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[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Feels like pretty strong linkages to obstruction of justice if you're trying to brazenly influence the outcome of a trial under the threat of violence.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 128 points 3 years ago

let us win or we’ll kill you

👍

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 27 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

The amount of Republicans that have no idea how strapped Democrats are is too damn high lol. While I'd love c/liberalgunowners to be as high as Republicans but, it's not THAT much of a numbers difference. 6/10 of Republicans live in a gun household vs 1/4 Democrats. Republicans usually sit at 40% of the pop vs Democrats at 50%.

Then they'll be fighting against the damn US Military with only the really full on bat shit Republicans. Jan 6th already showed us how many actually wanted to nut up. Hey, turns out not that many! There's a reason why there was a whopping 2, 3-star generals, RETIRED, that came out in favor of Trump. People think the military is filled with nothing but Republicans too, but Joe Biden beat Trump by 4 points in the military in 2020 lol.

The crazy fucks had their chance on January 6th already lol. Sorry people, it's not going to be a civil war. It's going to be increasing amounts of Republican extremism like it already has been for the last decade and more.

In the United States in 2022, 48 percent of Republicans reported that they owned at least one gun, and 66 percent said that they lived in a household with a gun. In comparison, only 20 percent of Democrats owned at least one gun, and 31 percent lived a gun household.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249775/percentage-of-population-in-the-us-owning-a-gun-by-party-affiliation/

Pew Graph

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/

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[-] stigmata@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago

Luckily most Trumpers wouldn't last more than a few minutes in a firefight before they run out of breath.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 113 points 3 years ago

He also alleged the Justice Department, the IRS and the FBI are “conspiring to hide the Biden family crimes, while all the time being obsessed with charging Donald Trump with crimes.”

Did all those supposed Biden crimes occur since 2020? No? Then why did the Trump administration let these supposed crimes go uninvestigated?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago

Anyone who says "Biden crime family" or a similar variant / transposition unironically, I have to ignore.

For my own sanity.

[-] Countess425@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Not to mention Hunter Biden is getting his in court? It's just boring tax fraud and a gun charge, tho, so nobody cares. Also he never worked for the government in any capacity ever.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 110 points 3 years ago

Did Huckabees just threaten another insurrection?

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 years ago

An extremely violent one at that. Now, let’s watch how quickly nothing continues to happen as a result of it.

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 103 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

His daughter is governor of a state. He was governor of a state. These are the kinds of people republicans are voting for office- do not let republicans get away with bastardizing the meaning of patriot. They are traitors at worst or traitor sympathizers at best.

Yep. I will die of old age before there is any chance of a Republican ever deserving my vote, or of the Republican party convincing me that they have moved on from fascism.

It would be like science fiction.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 81 points 3 years ago

Lets play a game. How many elected republican officials can threaten civil war before they are barred from office?

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 34 points 3 years ago

Tommy Tuberville is singlehandedly ratfucking the entire military through inaction and still gets to collect his 6-figure check.

Doubt anything will happen.

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[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago

Is it zero? Cause I fully expect the answer to be zero unfortunately.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 70 points 3 years ago

it's amazing how anti-American Republicans have become

[-] akai@kbin.social 70 points 3 years ago

Projection and threats, that's all they know how to do

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Give them some credit, they also know how to smash ~~windows~~police officers and wipe poop on walls

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago

Hey now if you can’t smear shit on the capitol and try to hang the VP then according to sarah palin 'What's The Use In Being A Good Guy?'

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 64 points 3 years ago

These aren't even veiled threats anymore. These are actual, out-in-the-open threats and they continue to happen because Democrats aren't doing anything about them.

Within hours of Huckabee making these threats, the FBI or Secret Service should be parading him in the streets with handcuffs on as they bring him in for questioning. Make an example of him, Palin and all the other right wing lunatics that are threatening our democracy.

But as usual, we give right wing lunatics a free-pass and then wonder why they continue to escalate this issue.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 36 points 3 years ago

And meanwhile, Trump is openly stating that his second term would be a revenge tour where he'll arrest anyone who opposes him. He doesn't care if there are any actual crimes committed because he thinks opposing him is a crime in itself.

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago

Thus fascism. And a good 1/4 to 1/3 of the country agrees with him, and the remaining 3/4 to 2/3 of the country either have no idea what is happening or are too busy bickering amongst themselves.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago

We will look back on the Dems the same way we look at the socdems in Germany who put up almost no resistance to the Nazis coming to power. I'd love to be wrong.

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[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 60 points 3 years ago

"If Democracy doesn't give me the result I want, I'll turn to Fascism!"

[-] deadbeef79000 25 points 3 years ago

That's exactly what is happening.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 58 points 3 years ago

Sounds like a terroristic threat...

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 years ago

Now if that isn't stochastic terrorism, I don't know what is.

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[-] knotthatone@lemmy.world 42 points 3 years ago

Let them try. Trump & his fellow republicans already attempted to violently overthrow our democracy once. Surrendering and allowing them their fever dream of a fascist dictator for life (however much time he's got left) will not improve our situation.

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 years ago

So… trying to make sure a traitor to America pays for his crimes is somehow wrong?

Wasn’t the Conservative Party in favor or patriotism?

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[-] Harpsist@lemmy.world 39 points 3 years ago

America. Are you ok? Blink twice if you need international help.

Or about just a friend from the north?

[-] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago

Blibk blink blink blink blink!!!!!!

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[-] Nougat@kbin.social 38 points 3 years ago

Look, another unindicted co-conspirator!

[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 34 points 3 years ago

You have that option I think, yes. Why do y'all always assume you're going to win though? You had a chance on January 6th, you had a chance every time Trump calls for a big rally at some courthouse proceeding, Trump had his chance not to surrender and to hole up with all his brave warriors and dare the deep state to come and dig him out.

I'm not saying there's not something very dangerous in these statements, because there is. But I can also confidently guarantee that just like with Ashli Babbit, as soon as bullets start coming back at Huckabee and a lot of these other extremely soft John "I-don't-do-all-that-well-when-my-plumbing-has-an-issue-let-alone-on-a-goddamned-battlefield" Eastman types, they're going to start all kinds of aggrieved moaning about how someone needs to enforce the laws against political violence, because this is crazy.

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[-] Nusm@lemm.ee 33 points 3 years ago

Do it! DO IT!! Shut up talking about it, and let’s get the civil war started!! Because I suspect it will be over before supper time.

In reality all they’re going to do is talk about it, because they’re small weak little people. Look at the big bad Proud Boys. When faced with the consequences of jail, they cried like little girls and begged the judges to take pity on them. Only one defiantly yelled “TRUMP WON” on his way out is the courtroom, but that was even after he cried and groveled.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 27 points 3 years ago

if former President Trump doesn’t win the presidential race because of his various legal battles.

Maybe he'll lose because so many people really loathe him.

[-] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 years ago

So they've decided to be terrorists.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 24 points 3 years ago

Y'know, this sort of rhetoric seems less about making a prediction (there will be violence) than it is about cueing his audience to prepare to be violent, or at least to accept that there will be violence.

Yeah, it looks like an innocent prediction from the guy that can see the writing on the wall, and that's why this kind of talk takes this form and not the form of explicitly calling for political violence from particular people- this way it's all deniable and stochastic enough that nobody's (hint, hint) actually breaking the law out in the open.

[-] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago

Yeah but if he wins there is going to be violence. I'd rather take my chances with the violence that happens because he lost than because he's ordering people that disagree with him off into camps.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago

The problem is that even if this is empty bluster on Huckabee's part, some jackass is going to decide that "deciding an election by bullets" means murdering a dozen random people at his local Wal-Mart.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 18 points 3 years ago

That's the goal. "Give us what we want or you and yours might get shot up at the local store."

Just like we don't let a nuclear dictator take what they want because "omg hed nuke us" we don't let some sister fucker redneck asshole have what he wants because he might shoot us. Either pull the trigger or fuck off.

[-] halfempty@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago

Palin, now Huckabee. These conservatives are just drooling over their potential "civil war".

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 19 points 3 years ago

Reminder: Mike Huckabee is Wrong About Everything!!! Always

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago

They really do want violence.

I hope, when the smoke clears, they serve the remainder of their days in prison.

Because They. Won't. Win.

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[-] volkhavaar@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago

Dear Liberals,

Buy guns now. You are severely outgunned and the police support the other side. There is no credible deterrence preventing fascist militias from waltzing into major metropolitan areas and doing pretty much the same thing the Khmer Rouge did in Cambodia (murdering everyone that disagreed with them). Being “outraged” is not enough. Putting “In this house we believe…” signs on your lawn is not enough. Reassuring yourself with op-eds in the New York Times is not enough. Buy guns now.

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