States cannot tax citizens for evangelistic purposes. It is well-established in the courts. It is a violation of the establishment clause and a gross violation (yes, I said a violation) of religious freedom...you know, to practice a religion that isn't a Judeo-Christian one. Facts.
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Isn't Christian. It violates the judeo part. Also the Christian part. Some people get touchy about thier version of the Bible
Yeah, get that Judeo- part out of there. Jews don't use anything even resembling the King James Bible at all. This shit is purely Christian shit.
i long for the day people will stop using "judeo-christian" to refer to things that are exclusively christian and have absolutely nothing to do with judaism
Boy, wait until you hear the crazy story about the origins of the Old Testament.
It's not about the bible at all. It's about fundamentalist conservatives trying to make their fundamentalism more palatable to the masses. Lots of conservative ideals don't mesh with Judaism at all, so they mask those ideals by hiding them within the shared history of both religions.
You’re right that they don’t mesh with Judaism.
They also don’t mesh with Christianity.
The religion aspect of it is completely hollow; just a front used to mask being a hate group.
ah yeah because the conservative republicans are trying to teach their kids judaism and totally don't hate jews and treat the "old testament" as exclusively christian
Which courts? The current 6-3 court?
Spoiler, Walters is 100% buying the Trump Bibles anyway. All this does is open the bidding a tiny bit more. Sure, someone can do a FOIA request and ask to see the bids, but they'll ignore it. The Oklahoma State AG is currently sueing the Oklahoma State Department of Education for ignoring the AG's own information requests. It's just $5-6 million for Trump out of OK schools. But hey, it's one of the best school systems if you flip the list up side down.
Sometimes I try to imagine what life could be like if people weren't constantly doing everything they can to break and exploit our system...
It's not even plausible to imagine a world where people aren't trying to break and exploit economic or government systems. It's like an ecosystem where there are always plants and animals trying to find new ways to gain advantage, even if it involves full-on parasitic behavior. The only thing we can do is try and design a government dynamic and robust enough to respond to the most dangerous and aggressive mutations.
No government, big or small, should have even the slightest hint of anything to do with any silly religious texts. Ever
Religions are just cults with enough followers and political capital that calling them what they are is taboo.
Hard to avoid completely when teaching history that is the result of people's beliefs in those texts, or functioning with believers of those religions as members of society. Comparing historical laws that were based on religion, the similarities of creation myths, and so on are solid educational topics when presented from a neutral position and always including multiple religions as examples.
No government should ever promote them or use them as justifications for anything in a government or educational program though. Especially anything that might elevate one above the others.
The original wording:
a Bible that is bound by leather or material like leather, has the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and is the New King James version of the Old and New Testament.
Now it can be included separately from the Bible. The original was transparent grift. Now it's just normal shoving religious shit where it doesn't belong.
It's actually insane how transparent it was.
They changed the wording but those shit-heels are still going to use tax payer money to accept Trump's bid and stuff his pockets.
This move is just for plausible deniability although it's exceedingly transparent.
The request was amended Monday and no longer requires the Bibles to include U.S. historical documents
Really went the wrong direction on that one. It isn't the Constitution or Declaration of Independence that are problematic.