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If you’re in the area impacted by Milton, you can find publicly available resources at the National Hurricane Center’s website: National Hurricane Center

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 202 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

There is nothing more tech-bro libertarian than taking free public data, wrapping it in a slick package, and selling it.

I used to think that TV weather people were obsolete, but now I'm nostalgic for the public service that survived in the old capitalistic ad based broadcast TV era.

[–] thurstylark@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, free broadcast tv and radio is still a thing, and they are an integral part of the US's disaster alert system. With the right equipment (read: basic cheap radio available almost everywhere), you can still listen to weather information (both general and severe) directly from the horse's mouth 24/7 for free.

In a disaster situation, these services will still stand because they require less infrastructure per person reached than is required to deliver high-speed internet to the same number of people.

These services still exist, and will continue to, but the knowledge of them has atrophyed from disuse. They won't go away, they've just been replaced in general usage because of the convenience that the internet provides us.

TL;DR: Get you a weather radio, get free weather for the life of the equipment. Even if it's not your daily driver, get one anyways, because you'll be able to hear the most relevant info in the worst situation.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

But muh free market!

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In a hypothetical world where everyone has every comfort available and every need met,

in that world at least,

I could say:

“There is some room for wrapping something in a sleek package!“

(Maybe I’d pay a dollar if someone remade those graphs really beautifully)

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I only ever check my weather on NWS, but a year or two ago they went from having easily read hourly forecast data to those obnoxious graphs. I have zero clue why they did that.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even AccuWeather is saying they're going too far now.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2024/07/accuweather-rejects-project-2025s-national-weather-service-noaa-plans.html

They realize they need that government data too.

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[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 112 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Project 2025 wants to disband NOAA and give its functions to Accuweather instead, directing taxpayer funding to a private company while also locking all weather data behind a paywall, so they get paid twice to provide the same info NOAA currently provides with a single payment (taxpayer funding). The Accuweather founder, Joel Myers, and his brother, Billy Lee Myers (unsuccessfully nominated by Trump to be the head of NOAA), are major Republican donors, but I’m sure that is completely coincidental.

[–] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy fucking shit, Accuweather?! TIL

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Catch me dodging that site from now on

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Weather.gov had the front page downgraded during the Trump administration.

However, if you take a second and put in your ZIP Code and poke around some, it is really freaking good.

And it’s free.

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Throwing it out there, but https://www.nhc.noaa.gov is hands down the best hurricane tracking site. It’s low Bandwidth, quick, lightweight, legit data backed, and generally the source data for most other weather sites.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

nhc.noaa.gov is the best for quick, up to date official info about expected impacts. Also local county and municipality pages are important to check for evacuation orders and routes.

For anyone who wants technical deep dives into the meteorology of tropical storms, I can't recommend www.tropicaltidbits.com enough.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's shitfunny because this is a perfect opportunity for apps like this to play into Capitalism and succeed twentyfold.

Open up the app to everyone for free during the hurricane, remove that after hurricane. So many people will go:

  • "OMG this app is useful, I'm paying"
  • "OMG that company is so kind, I'm paying"
  • "OMG I didn't even know about this but people spread the word, I'm paying!"

So many opportunities for longer-term profits missed by idiocy.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

You have way more faith in people's attention span than I

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What data does this app have that isn't freely available somewhere else?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yep. Hurricane info is available from official sources for free.

However, I can’t help but imagine some tiktok of someone finding themselves trapped on a rooftop crying because their preferred app wouldn’t show some critical info.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

For anyone who doesn’t know where here’s NOAA. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/093335.shtml?cone They’re who does America’s atmospheric and oceanic measurements, everyone selling it gets it from them

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's like my Canadian colleagues complaining that they can't find any info about big weather events on Facebook and I'm like "You realize your taxes pay for info available to all?"

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

noaa.gov. for sat images go to the goes image viewer

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Free coverage from Ryan Hall Y'all on youtube. He's livestreaming for the foreseeable future with no ads.

LightningMaps is my favorite real time weather map site.

NOAA's National Hurricane Center is the gold standard and updates regularly.

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[–] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mike's Weather Page is a hobbyist page that aggregates a ton of info.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

That site is an absolute mess!

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, demanding you to pay or die. Isn't capitalism grand?

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago

Ryan Hall is doing a Livestream on YouTube providing all day coverage of the hurricane. Several cameras up in areas that will receive the worst of it. Several meteorologists on staff, radar info and explanation, storm chasers on the ground. Pretty much all of the information you could need. Link

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

AccuWeather is free and provides up to date hurricane info.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

AccuWeather is a terrible company owned by human scum trying to exclusively privatize taxpayer-funded weather data.

If you care about having your taxpayer-funded weather accessible without going through a private, corporate middleman, you should never use AccuWeather.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

(Just don't rely on its forecasts outside the 15-day range)

[–] aniki@lemmy.zip 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't rely on anything more than 3 days out.

[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

dont rely on any weather forecast outside the 15-day range tbh

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The future of NOAA if trump gets elected

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

The NOAA has no future if Trump gets elected.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

God bless capitalism

[–] IDew@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This feels so american lmao

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's made by "bending spoons operations", an Italian company.

From app's the website:

Copyright © Bending Spoons Operations S.p.A. | Via Nino Bonnet 10, 20154, Milan, Italy | VAT, tax code, and number of registration with the Milan Monza Brianza Lodi Company Register 13368510965 | REA number MI 2718456 | Contributed capital €50.000,00

They also make WeTransfer, MeetUp and Evernote

Edit: they only bought these, they didn't make it.

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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why you’d get any weather information from anyone but Frankie MacDonald, with his very own weather station, is beyond me

"Get the fuck out of Florida" -free

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