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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 119 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Music in a movie instructs you on how you are supposed to feel about what's going on. Even if the music is telling you to feel uncomfortable, it's comforting to have that instruction. No music, no comfort.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 days ago

No Comfort for Musicless Films

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[–] AntonChigurh@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago
[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 90 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I heard Todd from breaking bad was the best depiction of a psychopath in media. He's not just outright evil like Anton he just doesn't really have feelings of guilt or remorse like normal people.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 days ago

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how genius a performance that was? Pre-Breaking Bad, I had no feelings about Jesse Plemons one way or the other. Now, every time I see him in something, I immediately think "What's this personified incarnation of evil up to now?"

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There are many flavors of murdering psychopaths. A few mass murderers from history would've been called cliche portrayals today.

The banality of evil is what needs to be learned. Much like fascist rhetoric sounds stupid and is obvious in a vaccuum, when people are drenched in it, A LOT of people slowly succumb to the horrible attitude even if they never start explicitly supporting fascistic positions.

It is poison much like mental illness becomes a poison, slowly enabling mostly normal people to do terrible things, like Todd. Todd was only a psychopath in that he exhibited no sympathy, which a lot of "normal" psychopaths have. It took an enabling environment to turn Todd in to a dengerous captor and murderer.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dan Carlin called fascism, among other things, an "intellectual contagion."

[–] shroomato@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most ideologies and religions are "viral" in the way they spread. Being able to think critically is how one stays immune.

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[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuckin Dead Eyed Todd! Dude always creeped me out. So much so that I find it hard not to see that character in everything else that actor has done.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

His small role in Civil War was so creepy and memorable.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

It's funny because I'm a composer who worked many tv/movie project, but the movies that impress me the most usually have no or little music. It is indeed unsettling.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For me, the most unsettling part was how one of the most important scenes in the movie happens off camera.

I was like "Wait... Did I MISS that?" Nope. It just happens off camera.

No spoilers.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That's close to how it happens in the book. I believe there's a single paragraph revealing that >!Moss was killed.!< Then the story moves along.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Reddit-style angle-bracket-exclamation-point spoiler tags do not work on desktop Lemmy or, to my knowledge, any mobile app besides Sync. Lemmy spoiler tags work a little differently:

Text next to the arrowText inside the spoiler which can be multiple lines * and can contain *formatting* * and other such niceties

which produces this

Text next to the arrowText inside the spoiler

which can be multiple lines

  • and can contain formatting
  • and other such niceties
[–] TechnicallyColors@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The angle-bracket spoilers also work on the eternity client, as it's just forked from some older reddit client. I made a spoiler oopsy recently with it.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

older reddit client

Infinity for reddit is still alive BTW.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

To whom it may concern,

MURDER! MURDER! MURDER!

Yours truly, Maurice Moss

[–] catbum@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

My eyes! You've spoiled them!!

^/s^

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

Fyi your way of doing spoilers isn't showing up for me, here's how they work on my client:

spoilerThis is a spoiler

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Wouldn't this be better with 1.) said group actually being psychologists, and 2.) a link to verify this happened at all?

edit: Apologies, I had the two fields switched in my head, but my second point stands.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Why would psychologists be better?

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not sure if it's the same in the US, but in France a psychiatrist's area of expertise is drugs and their effect on our brain/body (and with each other), which is why they have to do a few years of med school. They also have some psychology knowledge obviously but it's not their main focus, whereas a psychologist does not need any medical training (iirc) and specializes in psychology, and thus cannot prescribe drugs aside from over-the-counter stuff, although a lot of them also have some psychiatry training to better interact with psychiatrists when needed

[–] LurkyLoo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Yep, that is exactly how it is in the US as well. Each Individual may vary, but the general thrust of their education is as you said, psychiatrists are generally med focused (technically they complete med school and then specialize in psych) and psychologist completes grad school (PhD. or PsyD.) with the focus on psych and learns a bit about meds (since they are likely a big part of the picture for some patients). Psychologist generally can't prescribe meds (though there are some contexts where they can) and psychiatrists often don't do therapy (though again exceptions exist). BOTH can and do give official diagnoses, though many healthcare systems are set up with psychologists (or other mental health providers LMFT, LCSW, Etc.) seeing and diagnosing first, with psychiatrists reviewing diagnoses only if prescribing meds.

Another poster mentioned needing a psychiatrist for official diagnoses, and that is false in the US.

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[–] Nomad@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago
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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm reminded of an old meme, it was a message taped to a dorm's clothes dryer: "Whoever took my wet clothes out of the dryer and put yours in, you're an asshole. Unfortunately for you, so am I. You can find your clothes outside frozen in the snowbank. Problem with that? Room 214."

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (8 children)

It's too bad that Room 214 had that run of inexplicable bad luck after that. It was probably just the haunting, though.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hannibal lecter isn't supposed to be portrayed realistically though. He's larger than life!

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, as far as the movie goes he's not a "real" portrayal of a psychopath. He's supposed to make you feel scary and uncomfortable. It's like going to a haunted house and complaining the killer clowns look fake.

He's supposed to make you feel worried and uncomfortable, and he nails that perfectly.

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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 22 points 3 days ago

I'd love to see the rest of the list.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe because psychopathy is not a diagnosis. Psychopath is a popular or sometimes criminalism term, it's definition is vague and its use is not very strict. In mental health there's antisocial personality disorder and psychopathic traits in personality testing. But there's no single definition of what being a "psychopath" is.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I remember MASH being devoid of music as well.

Is there a list of movies that have no or very little music?

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That laughter track, however…

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think they are referring to the movie, which (I believe) did not have a laugh track.

If you can find it there was a DVD release of the tv series where the laugh track could be disabled. It's so much better.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I've run into more Patrick Batemans than Anton Chigurhs in my career.

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