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[–] captnanonymous@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Time to move to the glorious nation of Kazakhstan, the top producer of potassium, to get some of those magic minerals to protect my countless buildings.

[–] OopsAllTwix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago

Very Nice!!!

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 200 points 5 days ago (13 children)

It is a fantastically useful material, except for all the mesothelioma.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 95 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Seriously, except for the horrific issues with the stuff, it would be an essential material for various applications.

Its resistance to fire, heat transfer, etc would do wonders for insulation and construction.

[–] degen@midwest.social 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Makes me wonder if it could be treated in some way to make it not-so-inhalable. Though maybe we have better synthetic alternatives by now.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 53 points 5 days ago (5 children)

As I've understood it, the problem is primarily for the people having to manufacture products using it, and at rest it's supposed to be inert.

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 52 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Except that people don't always recognize it and end up drilling holes in it or sawing through it

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget about when it's time to un-make it.

Tearing down old building or tiles containing asbestos is also a huge issue.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 16 points 5 days ago (7 children)

So many people were exposed to asbestos dust in New York when the world trade centre towers were destroyed by terrorists

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[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s supposed to be it tends to get brittle and fracture creating airborne shards that you can breath in but your body can’t break down and that continuously damages the cells leading to cancer.

https://youtu.be/9ZIxGVJadyk?t=143

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Doesn't burn, really hard to wear out, you can just dig it out of the ground, easy to shape and repair.

Except it kills people, and it hurts the whole time they're dying.

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[–] Hazmatastic@lemm.ee 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"If you or a loved one have been diagnosed with mesothelioma, you may be entitled to compensation..."

[–] psud@aussie.zone 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

We are in Australia. The company that mined the stuff was found negligent as they kept selling it for decades after they knew it was deadly dangerous

I also hear that so many times thanks to one of the Brain Blaze (on YouTube) editors

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[–] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 79 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Aw fuck, I knew I remembered that shit from childhood.

[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Something something you may be entitled to compensation

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Probably because symptoms of mesothelioma take decades to develop, and I only encountered that stuff around a few holiday seasons in my earliest memories.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They're going to say the same about plastic

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] flo@infosec.pub 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Plastic is not very reactive. This property makes it generally not directly harmful to organic health, but also notoriously slow to decompose, causing huge amounts of pollution. I think it's misleading to compare it to asbestos.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

From what I gather, asbestos is also very stable and not reactive. Asbestosis is caused by tiny fibers physically tearing your lungs.

It's unlikely that plastic is as dangerous (we'd seen it by now) but its buildup can likewise cause some condition.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

To be clear, asbestos is less reactive than plastic (particularly most thermoplastics) by a wide margin. One burns, the other will not. Asbestos is closer to glass. It requires incredibly high temperatures to turn it into glass as a matter of fact, as that's about the only way to dispose of it permanently.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 80 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Treat your taste kindly with KENT, the cigarette with the NEW Micronite filter!

^^Micronite ^^is ^^asbestos.

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Oh oh, I've got one too. It's not containing Asbestos but Thorium (or Radium respectively) tho.

"Doramad radioactive toothpaste"

"Creates natural freshness in the mouth!"

"Special biological healing effects by radium rays. A thousand times medically prescribed and recommended."

"What does Doramad do? Through its radioactivity, it increases the defenses of teeth and gums. The cells are charged with a new vigorous life energy, which inhibits bacteria in their destructive ability. Hence the exquisite prevention and healing effect on gum diseases. Polishes enamel to the softest shiny white. Prevents tartar approach. Good foam, new taste, pleasant, mild and refreshing. Use extensively."

Quick disclaimer: The last two quotes can be found on Wikipedia but they are not backed up with sources.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Oh yes, the market will grind us all into a thin gruel for another dollar.

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[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's because of that kind of thing that I'm always skeptical of startups bringing new and shiny things, that weren't properly studied or tested, and promising to revolutionize something.

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[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And I thought Alex Jones' colloidal silver was insane

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The irony is that production was only stopped after Hiroshima and Nagasaki as nobody wanted to buy radioactive toothpaste any more. So the US which developed nukes against the Germans actually saved the Germans from radioactive poisoning by dropping said nukes on Japan.

One could say it left a bitter taste in some German's mouths. ^(I couldn't resist)

You know what, their claim about odour being caused by bacteria, and bacteria being damaged by radiation is on point.

I'm sure you'll have some odour when your mouth turns into a giant weeping sore though

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

turbocancer sticks!

now with better flavour!

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[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 23 points 4 days ago (6 children)

my garage, the old fence, and a good chunk of my house is asbestos.

They've been standing 60 years and you wouldn't know it.

Damn shame we can't use the material. Proof god hates us.

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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 53 points 5 days ago (1 children)

God: "I'll make a wonder material. Fire proof. Strong. Insulating. Just dig it up from the ground. Common a fuck. Waterproof."

"Then they can all get cancer the cunts"

"Okay I'm done shit posting for now. Where's that big tittie blonde gone"

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My dad was a contractor and he had a big sheet of it in the garage that was leftover from some job. It looked kind of like a sheet of drywall, but was grey and rougher. I used to take it into the back yard with a little blow torch and and lay on it while I melted metal things. I was probably ten to twelve at the time.

It was a different time.

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 51 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure we could go back to using it, with more precautions in place, better binders, etc. Hell, it's still used in many parts of the world, and it occurs naturally all over the fucking place. But, alas, lawyers would have to stop salivating at every mention of the word.

In geoscience, we started using the word asbestoform to describe minerals with fibrous habits so we don't get lawyers showing up to destroy all of our rock samples and turn every geoscience facility into a superfund site.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I'm pretty sure we could go back to using it, with more precautions in place, better binders, etc. Hell, it's still used in many parts

Is there a way to keep it inert when the next homeowner starts tearing down drywall and drilling holes in stuff?

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

magic population control

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 45 points 5 days ago

"Asbestos was first synthesized by the master magi Mesothelioma. He was looking for a way to slowly poison the local villages without easy detection, and ended up creating one of the most common robe linings found today.

Mesothelioma is remembered long after his passing, though not fondly. If you, or a loved one, has been harmed by the creations of Dark Lord Mesothelioma, Sending us today..."

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Stupid people used asbestos. We made ourselves part plastic!

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