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I've been reading that BlueSky has reached critical mass and is snowballing well at the moment. I suspect it has drawn people away from the fedi and back into the loving embrace of venture capitalists.
Obviously, the answer is no, because nearly nobody from Bluesky is checking this.
I gave Mastodon a couple of tries but I don't think I lasted more than a few days in either instance. I'm just really not into that style of social media, regardless of who the provider of the service is. I do not understand the point of it nor how to "correctly" interact with it.
I also found Mastodon to be extremely confusing and so has every person that I have directed to it. Mastodon's website and docs do a very poor job explaining how it works to people who are not already in-the-know about federated services. Lemmy was a bit confusing too but I had a much easier time grasping it - although that could be because I have more experience with Reddit-styled websites.
I wish it all the best because it seems like people are just making moves to other VC-owned, private, enshittified platforms that will abuse/exploit their users. I want Mastodon to succeed but often feel like it doesn't doing much to help its own case.
I'm following bsky's progress. They have shared things which on a technical standpoint and from a social network empowerment perspective are very interesting. The portability of the profiles and the fully custom moderation layers are particularly noteworthy and seem to go far beyond what I've seen in other social networks. Even in mastodon apparently it is not possible to port a profile from one instance to another without losing all your post history (ente.io tried this recently and got caught by this). And for moderation, you have to rely on your instance moderation rather than personalized one. And the annotation part of bsky is also interesting to me.
I refuse to support a corporate platform, whilst also adding nothing new to the agenda as well to make me want to go on Bluesky, so therefore I’m sticking with Mastodon/Fedi atm. Much more ethical that way.
Also much more fun and positive too with liked minded people on there too (except the Israel/Palestine stuff, which seems to be super divisive for some odd reasons in which it really shouldn’t be controversial at all but I digress tbh)
Also a way to say “fuck you” to Jack Dorsey too, who has ruined the internet, thanks to him tbh lol despite not being part of the Bluesky board anymore.
No. I don't trust another corporate-owned platform, and I don't trust the way they pay lip service to federation while still making everything dependent on one central server they control.
Neither, I never used Twitter in the first place so I didn't need a Twitter alternative.
I think the Lemmy/Reddit style of posts and comments is much more intuitive and makes for easier engagement than the Twitter style of rolling status updates.
Along this line of thinking, I use Lemmy and Mastodon as complementary rather than competing, but not in the way people want/use X/Bluesky. Lemmy (reddit) is great for the use as you outline, Mastodon (and Pixelfed) supply a visual experience if you make it work that way and don't expect/want an X like experience (so think more Instagram). Lemmy lacks multireddits which could solve some of this Mastodon use case, on reddit I have a multireddit named "Gallery" which combines a dozen picture-only subreddits.
One can follow hashtags like #photography or #catsofmastodon, discover like-minded profiles who only post pictures and minimal talk/chatter (a lot of actual skilled photographers are present) and follow those profiles. It provides an experience that rounds out Lemmy, but I do admit I would love a "gallery" like view in the apps to streamline the hashtag viewing (Pixelfed does this specifically, but people are spread all over the planet - Mastodon proper pulls in federated data easier, IMHO)
Bsky has actual people from twitter I wanted to follow that never bothered with mastodon
This is it for me. I don't ever post on Twitte/Mastodon/Bluesky, it's entirely read only for me, and the feeds I want to follow are finally starting to migrate to Bluesky. They never considered Mastadon.
This, plus bsky seems to have a more active sports culture compared to mastodon so, although I’ve been in mastodon for a couple years, I’m already kind of enjoying bsky more.
Caveat: I’ve literally only been on bsky for less than a week so the activity over there could absolutely be temporary, we’ll see.
I’m using Masto a few times a day and I generally like it. I get a good mix of news and pictures. I joined after Twitter became X.
I’m not on Bsky but frankly reading the comments in this thread makes me consider it
Once in a blue moon I remember that I have a Mastodon account. And I use it mostly because of the cross-compatibility with other Fediverse applications, something that Bluesky lacks.
I suspect it has drawn people away from the fedi and back into the loving embrace of venture capitalists.
I think so, too. Even people who understand what federation is and why it's good are still affected by network effect; "it's federated" might weight a lot for them, but it is not a perfect shield.
Even though there is some network effect just in terms of there being much less content on the threadiverse than Reddit, I do feel like this is something we're somewhat shielded from. For the most part, we're not here to follow specific people: my friends aren't on Lemmy/Mbin, or maybe they are, I don't actually know or care. I have a Mastodon, but a lot of the people I'd theoretically be interested to follow are still on Twitter, or BlueSky, or Threads or something. It's not enough of a pull factor to make me join any of those, but it's probably why I barely use Mastodon.
Instead of "shielded" I think that a more accurate word would be that we have a "buffer". The network effect still applies to us, as much as it does in the microblogging side of the Fediverse; it's just indirectly (more people → more content → more people), in a way that content produced here in the past still might attract users in the future.
At least bluesky has bridges
I'm on it, but only for the novelty currently. Sports haven't really taken off here yet, and I crave some interaction while watching. Instead of going back to Reddit, I'll shit post there and once it develops here or a better alternative comes up, I'll jump ship. Not a Twitter format fan.
I used to be a staunch mastodon fanboy, but honestly I'm starting to lean towards Bluesky nowadays.
Sure there's only one big company controlling all the instances, but their federation system has solved a lot of the pain points that have been plagueing Mastodon. I can actually follow artists on it without having to deal with mastodon.art.
And hey, it's an easy to use social media to use for the "normies" rather that the techie Mastodon.
Why would a person not just use both? You don’t have to just pick one.
Eh. For me, personally, it's just too much to manage. I don't want to post and check replies on two different platforms for the same thing.
You don’t have to. Engage with platforms on your own terms. Letting the platform (and I mean that broadly - ANY platform, including Lemmy) dictate your engagement is legitimately not good for anyone’s mental state. It’s healthier to be aware of your usage and try to self-limit when and where possible. Humans weren’t designed to be as chronically-online as we have become. I struggle with this dynamic myself, tbh.
misskey still clears
No because why would I?
Yes. I used both and I just didn't stick around in Masto.
Honestly, Masto is fine but the firehose is too fast for a system without good filtering tools. I ened up on a multicolumn layout where one of the columns was frequently NSFW and at least a couple of others were entirely dominated by insular "why is Mastodon so cool and everything else so crap" weird sunk cost propaganda.
And to be clear, I did keep a BS account to follow a bunch of celebrities from old Twitter, but I actually hang out more here than I do in BS. It's just I do both far more than Masto.
I have a Mastodon, but I don't use it that much.
I never even bothered to sign up for BlueSky. At least as of me writing this comment.
Nah, bluesky doesn't really appeal to me. I like the tumbr-ish culture on Mastodon.
@Jezebelley While it's disappointing that communities I'm interested in seem to have moved there - I have zero interest in using something that will inevitably become enshittified.
This is exactly my training, too.
Venture capitalists funded it, and when their money runs out, they must be paid.
Bluesky users will be advertised to. Their information will be sold. No thanks!
@Jezebelley
Why would I do that? I can't leave comments on Lemmy posts and Peertube videos from there!
I think people just are fed up with Twitter and are looking for the most twitter-like thing they can find. Mastodon is, frankly, nothing like Twitter. The vibes are too different.
No, I have plenty enough to read on Mastodon and don't need another way to get updates from news sites and blogs (which is all Mastodon is useful for to me).
I use both. I'm a member of a local instance on Mastodon. On Bluesky, I follow more mainstream outlets.
I'm not on board with having one account to interact with the fediverse. I like the compartmentalization of using one account for some things and another for other things. I also see value in diversification in case something goes wrong or takes too long to be improved or repaired. However, I also see substantial value in all social networks communicating with each other so you can choose a platform that aligns more with your wants and needs while still getting the information that's relevant to you.
I just wish more "mainstream" outlets would get on board with the fediverse - either Mastodon or Bluesky. I really think towns and cities should invest in Mastodon instances where local government and other agencies could engage with the community (who may be members of other instances).
The "mainstream" outlets I follow on Bluesky are: Media Matters, The Conversation, Washington Post, BBC (unofficial), MacRumors, AP, Al Jazeera, Bloomberg, etc.
The local outlets I follow on Mastodon are mostly twitter bots via bird.makeup: the local police department, the mayor, the newspaper, sports reporters, etc. I wish more bars / restaurants, music venues, local blogs and reporters were on the fediverse (looking forward to cross-posting from Threads).
I'm actually using RSS a lot more than either Mastodon or Bluesky because so few outlets are accessible on the fediverse.
The only reason I haven't tried Bluesky is Jack's relationship to it, having suffered through the enshitification/nazification of Twitter BEFORE it's sale to fascist Elon Musk and subsequent purposeful destruction at the behest of the Saudis, I didn't want to be part of anything he was part of ever again.
The Fediverse, Mastodon/Lemmy et all is a sewer of antisemitism, which I was looking to sidestep with my move away from Reddit, but it's so much worse here with the neo anarchist/tankies all thinking their fighting the good fight, who seem to make up the majority of the Fedi instance owners and moderators.
This would also be the only reason I'd ever check out Bluesky, but I am inching ever closer as time goes on.
Jack left bsky a while ago.
I heard he left operations/board of directors, but I still have the inklink he retains an ownership stake in Bluesky, which is what's prevented me from joining, so far
Somebody posted a trust me bro that he in fact never invested in it.
I use all three: mastodon, bluesky, and twitter. Mostly because people I follow are on different platforms. Personally, I would settle for mastodon alone. There is a recent big wave of artists moving from twitter to bluesky because twitter got new policy that makes it impossible to opt-out from using images posted on twitter as AI training material. Actually those new rules to me sound like they're problematic in terms of author rights in general, not only AI stuff.
I like bluesky especially For You feed reminds me to X and there are lots of engagement. But, mastodon is okay for niche stuffs
