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In a rambling voice message on Monday, the country’s minister for the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice announced the bizarre new restriction on women’s behaviour.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 116 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh my fucking god, I HATE religion.

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[–] RonnieB@lemmy.world 81 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well they ain't called the talifreedom

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago

TaliBAN'd:

  • joy
  • happiness
  • good things
[–] Lemmynated@lemmy.zip 76 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

These Taliban sound like some real jerks.

[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 50 points 3 weeks ago

Now I'm not the most up to date on politics and the like, so what I am about to say might be pretty controversial, but I'm sorta thinking I agree with you.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All I’m saying is that SkyNet would never allow that. I vote for SkyNet takeover of humanity.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not directly related, but you might enjoy the show 3 body problem

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I watched that show and yeah it was really good. I think our last hope is probably alien invasion or AI takeover.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's a hot take if you've read the books.

[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 57 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

This smells more like a country run by incels rather than religion

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

A religion that says when you die you get 72 virgins is founded on treating women like property.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Many religions are like this. In the Bible if you rape a woman you're punished as if you damaged property.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

The "punishment" is the rapist has to marry the victim. The bible punishes the victim.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

*corporate wants you to find the difference between these two

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 7 points 3 weeks ago

I was listening my local radio station and they had a story about how women were banned from speaking in public. One of the guest speakers (mostly, women from Afghanistan) gave a history of how it became like this.

There were freedom fighters, or Mujahideen, which were trained in jihad against the Soviets. And part of that indoctrination involved physical separation between males and females, including family members, of the boys and men that later became the Taliban. And part of that indoctrination involved the mullahs, or teachers in those seminaries, teaching or indoctrinating the students, all males, that females are the source of temptation to sinful acts.

There's more to it in the story / transcript, but that was the basic premise.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Christianity too! Women in the Bible are property.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 56 points 3 weeks ago

Religion: Reminding people how stupid Humanity can be.

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

At what point do we treat this as the hostage situation it really is and do something about it?

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Got any suggestions? We tried bombing them to the stone Age, we tried training their military to avoid jihadist radicals taking over. The EU court ruled that just being a woman from Afghanistan is enough reason to get asylum. And the people from there that actively committed to lasting difference over the last 2 decades have either left the country, are in hiding or dead. It's horrific.

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

maybe handing morality down from on high doesn't work

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What morality?

Allowing training camps for al queda in your country and train their terrorists to spread terror will get you kicked in the teeth? Cause and effect.

Because as far as I know there was no other reason for the invasion.

While we where there we did not allow wholesale enslavement of women and some of the other things jihadist would love to do to people when in charge.

So what of those things do you disagree with, can you enlighten me? Should we have let the terrorists train there? Or should we have let their jihadist laws enslaving women be left on the books while we where there.

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Never, if the world learned anything from the last 20 years it's that the only ones who can free Afghanistan are the Afghanis

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And they don't wanna.

I'd kinda love to see a successful approach to these kinds of issues where the UN would do something like drive protected buses into these areas, where the expectation is an unalienable right to enter those buses, with maybe 2/3rds of the seats reserved for women and children.

I wonder if any realistic iteration of that could work to get a decent number of would-be refugees out of situations they want out of, maybe a few thousand, ideally tens of thousands if not more.

It sounds like something that maybe could be made to work if communicated right, but could also meet armed resistance in many places, and there would probably be a lot of men making "their" women stay by force or coercion or lying, probably a lot of hiding inside while the buses pass.

I wonder if it could be done in a way that makes it worth it. It feels like the sort of rescue the UN should be doing.

It also feels like it really forces evil men to show their hand, reveal themselves explicitly as captors, and make it far easier to justify killing them, as I believe that is the ethical response to men who hold their wife hostage.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Anything shy of eliminating all the conservatives in the region will result in this continuing. This is the natural result of unchecked conservatism. It has metastasized there.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Conservatism is social cancer. It is the single biggest threat to life on earth.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh hey they were just at madison square garden I think.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

No, that was y'all qaeda

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A tragedy. And too many men I guess are just going along with it.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Religion is a monstrous evil. Especially the Abrahamic cults.

[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Bizarre and unique, the Abrahamics' specific (yet general enough) characteristics. And evergreen! See only the Mormon church, a recent cult, for example - unbelievably successful. Invented out of whole cloth within the last 200 years. Tax exempt and owns ~4% of the land in the US today, to say nothing of their business interests (cuz it's even harder to know).

They venerate Jesus.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And if Jesus were alive he would be aghast.

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[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 22 points 3 weeks ago

Looks like it's time for sign language to rise. Are the Taliban going to say that women can't move their hands? (How will they serve their ~~masters~~ men otherwise?)

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A lot of people want to point at religion but these are conservative sentiments. The Taliban was only popular due to it's anti-imperialism fighting foreign invaders like the Soviets and US. Now that the people of Afghanistan can turn to internal politics, the can fight to end or reform the Taliban's oppressive rule. The Taliban is sowing the seeds of their own demise via popular revolution

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem is, they've actually successfully reduced corruption from the unjust kleptocracy the US installed. Shits pretty bad when the fucking taliban can come along and create a less corrupt government.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

https://tradingeconomics.com/afghanistan/corruption-index

Along with the general removal of US money spigots and the CIA/DOD putting it's thumb on the scale for corrupt politicians that will collaborate with them. It's frankly the entire reason the regime folded so fast when the Taliban invaded. Entire divisions of troops were just some guy taking their paychecks and putting it into his pocket after forcing them to sign up. And when everyone is power is just blatantly stealing while being propped up by US agencies for being cooperative, well, it trickles down.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's so fucking weird.

"Because some of us have not learned personal space, women may not be seen, heard, or spoken of, even by other women. 'Cause they're scary 🥺"

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They turn into Moclans if they continue.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess they can’t listen to the Taliban then, because they seem like a bunch of little bitches.

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[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck the Taliban really fucking hard. That's all I want to say right now.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's like the dark ages are still strong in other parts of the world. Makes me sad to think about how a vast amount of Americans don't value US democracy at all.

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