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I've never been sentimental about a social media site but it's sad for me to see reddit so clearly killing itself. Pushshift is already banned and Apollo is soon to follow. Reddit will either pivot fully to a mainstream audience or die out. It's just sad for me to see it doing it to itself.

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[–] RoaringSilence@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Remember that legendary times when reddit was new?

That's what's happening now in the fediverse with Lemmy and kbin, I am to excited being a part of it as to mourn about reedit.

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[–] Clodsire@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

its sucks to see a site you used to like slowy becoming worst and worst, but its always better to look for alternatives over sinking with the ship

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[–] CookieJarObserver@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just hate the fact that 4chan will survive reddit...

I'll probably miss some of the smaller communitys i was active in... :/

[–] donio@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It kinda feels like this whole mess is giving me permission to leave. Like when you know that you are in an unhealthy relationship but don't know how to get out of it and suddenly your partner says that maybe you should start seeing other people.

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[–] markipol@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm really fucking pissed because reddit is the only forum for a lot of topics. Realistically, I can't say I'm going to stop using it totally. Like, you can clearly see it is at risk of a tumblr-esque descent. The CEO has repeatedly said they are "fighting" for nsfw content to remain, but I trust 0% of what that guy says considering he's repeatedly lied, slandered people and freely admits to just trying to get profitable as soon as possible (see latest ama, for the IPO so he can cash out, presumably). If this really is a Tumblr level decline which it remains to be seen if it is, they'll be in desperate need of more VC cash so porn is as good as gone.

Anyways, I hope some communities start coming over. The blackout is a good protest, but meaningless if there's no actual action apart from that. Regarding the blackout, I don't even really give a shit about "saving" Reddit anymore, as they've made it very clear they are beyond saving. I just want the same experience with the same level of community somewhere else (fuck capitalism and centralization though)

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[–] sprocket@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah for sure. I was on reddit for 13 years, there were users I recognised by name, people I was friendly with, people I'd have intense debates with, many, many, many subreddits I loved.

But nothing lasts forever, and this place seems nice so here's to new beginnings 🍻

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[–] nimnim@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still in the anger stage and I can't understand why Reddit is moving towards a full self-destruction, but I'm glad that Lemmy exists because I believe it can become a suitable alternative over time.

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[–] PredictiveTextNames@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It almost doesn't even feel real. Like, in a few weeks I won't be using reddit almost at all anymore since RiF will be gone. And yet, I'm still browsing Reddit just as much right now as ever and seeing almost no difference other than salty posts about the API changes on a few subs.

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[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 17 points 1 year ago

Nope, not at all. All products and services inevitably kill themselves when they prioritize growth against providing a high-quality service. Infinite growth is impossible and when the service's growth hits its natural limit, it will introduce quality setbacks to reach the profit goals. I'll miss the contributors on Reddit who made its communities great, but I also know these communities and their users will survive without Reddit. As for Reddit the corporation itself...

[–] biscuitsofdoom@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've checked out for a couple years ago.

In many ecosystems, wildfires are nature's way of regenerating the earth,

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit needs to die unfortunately. The last 5 years of development was spent on shitty stickers and nfts that no one will even remember. The project has zero vision, no wonder they want to cash out.

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[–] klemptor@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, yeah. Reddit has been part of my daily routine for 12 years now. Sure, a lot of the content is junk food for the brain, and reddit has changed a lot during that time, but I've also learned a lot of cool things and had a lot of interesting conversations there. Lemmy looks promising, but it's still very nascent. The userbase is small, it's missing a lot of the niche communities that you can find on reddit, and the tech is glitchy. Overall it feels a lot more like tinier than reddit (which duh, of course it does).

Reddit is also a bad habit that I've wanted to reduce for a while now, so maybe this is the shove I needed.

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[–] Sentenial@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is, it already has a mainstream audience with the majority of its users on the official app and using the garbage redesigned website.

Just wondering if the mods and people actually making content are part of that audience or not.

I'm hoping no, and that reddit will fail like Digg given its horrible decision making the last few days. May that IPO crash and burn.

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[–] Mac@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, Reddit is trash. What you're missing is the small communities that made it worth enduring. Those communities are created and inhabited by people like us. They will live on somewhere else—maybe even here.

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[–] Kostyeah@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't really miss it at all tbh. I wasn't an active poster, but I would lurk every day. At a certain point it got repetitive, where I could guess what the comments would be like on the next post. It got too big to support any meaningful discussion, and devlovled into stupid jokes and puns.

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[–] Klinkertinlegs@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

I’ll miss some of the communities I was in. I will not miss Reddit. It’s been going downhill for years.

[–] Kamirose@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I honestly doubt I will entirely stop using it, but I will likely entirely stop using it on mobile, and continue to use adblock on old.reddit. Some of the communities there are fairly irreplacable for me for now, especially hobby communities with their wikis and tutorials and years of answered questions you can search for.

It will most likely stop being my main time waster website on the net, though, and for that I'm not sad.

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[–] luckless@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oddly enough I feel like I'm going to miss the UX from boost more than the subreddits themselves. Even the better ones have so much negativity in the comment sections that there's no point in participating in the conversations, even with the wealth of content compared to Lemmy currently.

Looking forward to the growth from Lemmy apps such as Jerboa and Mlem.

[–] howmanytacos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Also a boost user. Also mourning the UX it delivered more than the subreddits.

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[–] wusterion@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Yes and no, I loved reddit's simplicity and compatibility with third-party applications. There was basically a subreddit for everything.

My feelings about reddit started to change when they implemented the new reddit frontend. Another change was that some big subreddits have mods who are on a power trip - so a simple discussion was impossible. Now they have taken away my favorite application - Apollo.

I'm pretty sure reddit will survive, but with worse content anyway, because reddit as a business doesn't care about quality of content, they only care about engagement.

On the other hand, I'm "happy" reddit did what they did, and because such a decision to limit the API or introduce nonsense only promotes the development of a federated and decentralized social internet. It reminds me of the "old internet", which I miss a lot, and I'm very happy to see its revival and people using it.

[–] alehel@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Although I liked reddit, I didn't like the focus on karma. Way to many posts were made purely in an attempt to collect karma. Ruins the conversion and litters the feed with re-posts of videos that belong to someone else.

[–] ultraHQ@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Eh, i've been on it for probably around 15 years. Not going to miss it, but still will append site:reddit.com to all of my search queries as its impossible to get a good answer anywhere else on the internet

[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Not so much. I'm an early adopter, so it's not like I haven't been through this fifty million times already.

[–] koopacha@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit was a part of my life for almost 11 years. I am 22 and some of my first posts on Reddit were short stories I had written and posted to r/movies for opinions on whether they would be good as full length films… lol Back then it felt so tight knit and close, like a community. It felt like you had to have some savviness for tech and computers to use it, and really it was like a home to me. A place where I could talk about the weird niche things that i found interesting, and find people like me. What Reddit has become is so far from that, it might as well be twitter or something. Just a billion people all throwing shit around, no community, no friendships, just posts with comments. The magic died and it is sad. This site seems like it might recapture some of what I loved about early Reddit, though. I hope

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[–] styxbane@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This morning, I was mourning it. However, I made a post asking a really simple question earlier but was instead attacked. It was truly such a simple question about something related to my house. So, not anymore.

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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mourn what it was, yes.

There was a recent comment I read about how it's become this incredible resource for the most obscure tech and they were reluctant to delete their posts and accounts because they'd receive random messages of thanks years after the post was made.

And it's true. Reddit has become an invaluable resource for these kinds of things. Not only that, but it's one of the few places that exists on the web where cohesive and coherent discussions even exist. It was always the community and discussion that made reddit great and they want to turn it into yet another swipebait infested serotonin sponge. I sincerely hope lemmy can take its place, but there are going to be some major growing pains if we get big influx of "redfugees."

It almost makes me think that when something becomes such an enormous and invaluable public resource, there should be a legal compulsion to archive it before doing anything that will compromise its accessibility.___

[–] regex@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been using Reddit since around mid-2009 (pre-Digg exodus). In my honest opinion, the signs of decline on Reddit have been bubbling for a while, and that's forgoing any consideration of operational/executive decisions that have been made along the way.

Don't get me wrong, Reddit even in 2009 wasn't a consistent bastion of quality, productive, insightful discussion, and a good amount of posts on the frontpage on a given day were memes (not to say those are inherently "bad" posts; peak f7u12 anyone?). But the discussions that were had were, for the most part, friendly and/or constructive in some meaningful way. Over the years though, as the userbase grew and the site became increasingly "mainstream," I noticed there was an uptick of either one or both of two things: 1) low effort posts/comments and 2) sheer vitriol in discussions.

When you combine those two things, you get what -- in my opinion -- is a social media platform with high levels of "engagement" that VCs/execs love to tout and leverage (see Reddit's recent IPO ambitions), but ultimately, a platform that's merely a shell of what it once used to be.

As that happened, I found myself using Reddit less as a "fun" social media platform and more as a tool -- using it for discussions and/or information about niche hobbies, interests, news topics, etc. While the dominance of forums in that area may have been overtaken by subreddits over the years, I don't think there was anything particularly unique about what Reddit as a platform was doing to help these sort of communities exist, and I really doubt that Reddit will be the last place these communities can thrive.

[–] BreadDog@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Yes and no, as a 12 year vet.

Reddit is not what it was when I joined. Back in the early 2010's reddit really felt like the internet's evolution from forums. Not going to pretend it was the first, but it really did feel like something was special about it. The community aspect was really important back then. All of the sudden, it felt like you could literally build a community around anything, with little effort, and the "Build it and they will come" factor would kick in.

But things have spoiled since then. We have over a decade worth of "Eternal Septembers", and being a redditor turned into "being a redditor" has turned into, we'll it's just another part of social media infrastructure. Pretty much everybody I know who has use the site has basically sectioned themselves off from using the site as a a whole and just have their specific subs that they browse. I'm a programmer so I basically just use it for the programming subs and different games I play like OSRS, Factorio, etc.

And I guess, a last thought, I don't think reddit is going to die from this. I would wager the vast majority of the userbase really doesn't give a shit, and to be honest, that is fine. Like I said, reddit is part of internet social infrastructure at this point. It's probably still going to be useful to prefix google searches with "reddit some product" to find the best human reviews of that product. But for me, I don't really feel the need to keep using it day to day. I'm looking for a community and I can find it elsewhere.

[–] Haunting_Tale_5150@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I was in a bit of a panic and still am tbh. The main thing is how easy it is to find resources for any hobby or niche interest on there. It's gonna take a long time for any website to catch up the wealth of resources. I still find myself going "site:reddit.com thing I'm searching for" even though I don't interact with reddit itself too much. That's the thing that will hurt most when it's gone. That and the daily music news/discussions since I like to listen to music.

[–] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I feel disappointment. What reddit was, or at least how I saw it, is not what was on display for the past few weeks.

But my excitement for new things is awesome! I miss the days of stumbling across new, exciting, and weird sites instead of 1 all powerful site. The feeling of starting something anew is fun, and I'm looking forward to learning how to use and defining what this site is with y'all.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was part of the Digg migration. I'm part of the Reddit migration. I'll be part of the next migration.

The impermanence of life.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yea kinda. I think Reddit in general is quite amazing. People harp about toxic social media etc, but there's something truly great about being able to find people of common interests from all around the world.

In general... This is what internet was supposed to be, right.

Plus nobody forces you to deanonymyze yourself. With that comes some pretty cool culture.

Although admittedly I've noticed the mood on the whole site being more sour in the past months to a year... But maybe that's me more than anything.

It's a shame such a model is apparently not sustainable as a business. Maybe it's true that there should be public services fulfilling this purpose.

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[–] aaronbieber@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Can we also have a moment of silence for all the other great link sites that have died?

Stumbleupon, kuro5hin, digg, fark (still exists technically but as a shell of its former self)

What was your favorite before reddit?

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[–] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

I used to spend so much time on reddit every day. But I just can't condone what's happening. I won't go back. It sucks. I hate it. But I'll survive.

[–] Homo_Stupidus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Reddit has been my internet home since 2012. It's surreal and depressing to see it so far gone. Still unsure where I will go next, but lemmy feels familiar at least.

[–] cark@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel like reddit dying could be a positive thing for me. For years now I have felt the negative influence that its toxic environment - fueled by impersonal, discordant interactions - had on me. Not to mention the complete destruction of my ability to concentrate caused by the micro dopamine hit targeting of social media UX. I'm hoping that moving to a smaller platform will help with some of that pervasive anger I feel as a result of constant reddit usage.

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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm mourning the communities i found, but not reddit itself. Spez has been a turd forever. I saw him at a tech inclusion conf like 6-7 years ago and they knew then he was such a shit they didn't even allow questions from the audience. He said nothing useful and basically said "we keep the donald because both sides" and not so subtly that they keep everyone for add views.

He sucks ass and is only concerned about IPO and will likely just change the r/all to whatever is left and declare the IPO a victory as users bleed away.

Hoping to find more of my old communities around lemmy with hopefully less bigots.

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[–] Ultra980@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not really "mourning" it, but I had a weird feeling, like the end of a great book (series) or movie, like I wish it would have continued more.

Hiwever after switching to lemmy, the community here seems way more active and friendly, and even though there are less overall users, I get more interaction with my posts and comments, maybe also because they aren't drowned in a sea of other comments.

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[–] hakase@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I've been mourning Reddit for half a decade a this point.

[–] 42triangles@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't mourn it, but I do already miss it. Because as terrible of a place as it can be, it has the huge advantage of being, well, huge.

So even more niche stuff has some level of engagement enabling you (together with the format) to find things you enjoy or are interested in.

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[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I really liked Reddit. I liked the community, I liked the fact that (compared to other social media) people were intelligent and respectful, I admit it felt like a better community years ago but it was a big part of my life. I'll be sad to see it go.

[–] lvxferre@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've mourned more for the shells of the eggs that I broke today. That was a tasty omelette.

I'm genuinely happy that Reddit is dying. Yes, it'll lead to some information loss and that's bad, but we've been stuck in that abusive platform for too long. Now at least saner alternatives will get some room to grow.

[–] scrollbars@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe not mourn but I did have an "oh shit" moment today over a couple smaller communities where I don't know where people might scatter to. It finally sank in.

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[–] shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Kinda. I've been a part of it so long, and it has exposed me to so much new stuff. Reddit got me through some tough times as a kid, and I definitely would've been a different person if I hadn't found reddit.

But the site has been dying for a while now. Hivemind is bigger than before, so many more teenagers, no one is following rediquette, and admins are actively trying to 9Gag-ify the place. I've been finding myself disliking the place more and more for a while, sinking time into it more out of habit than anything else.

The only things I'm gonna miss is the ease of access to expert opinions - I could just go on the trees or bugs or any other niche subreddits and get someone really knowledgeable to answer it.

That, and discussions about my city and country - not many folks joining sadly

[–] Deestan@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Been on Reddit for 15 years. Will probably hang on to a few communities that only exist there for a while longer.

I was sad and sentimental about it when it started dying years ago. The desperate "must grow until implode" path that all corporate owned platforms follow, is inevitable. At some point it'll suck too much for you to tolerate.

Make a first-party mobile app for a site that would be fine on web. Sell premium subscriptions. Sell microtransactions. Insert ads. Insert more ads. Insert ads inbetween content. Make the ads look like content. Put usability features behind Premium subscription and forbid integrations that do similar things. Try to be tiktok? Try to be a social network. Short videos! Try to be Youtube? Try to be Twitch!

[–] gingerrich@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm going to miss the Star Trek sub but I am hoping the Lemmy one will pick up.

Overall, Reddit has suffered over the years allowing blatant right wing build ups to take root. My old local sub was seeing dog whistles pop up and general quality of the sub sufferes, even more so when the local football people came over and brought their 'banter' with them along with shit posts. The mods didn't really do anything to guide the quality of the sub and I left it last year. Today I deleted my account. No regrets.

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[–] god@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

What I mourn is not reddit. I couldn't give a shit about the company, the software, etc. What I mourn is the freedom and easy availability of information. I've always found it a bit stupid but convenient that everyone just congregated there. I'd much, however, prefer there to be specialized forums for each thing, findable through Google, perhaps federated. Decentralization is the way to go to ensure durability and freedom. Everyone being on one platform is very stupid and fragile.

[–] DingoFan@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not any more than I mourned digg. Reddit is dying, just like Digg did and we collectively looked for a new home and found Reddit. I am hoping Lemmy takes off and we make our new home a decentralized version of the parts we liked about reddit, without the parts we didn't like.

Will be a fun ride and I am glad I am on this train with Lemmy (Both Beehaw.org and lemmy.ml)

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