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If you're a vegan in the US.... (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by TheTechnician27@lemmy.world to c/vegan@lemmy.world
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I know I'm just some guy, but if you're a vegan in the US, I really can't underscore enough how catastrophic a Trump presidency would be for animal welfare. I imagine the demographic of vegans who are also voting Trump is near-zero, but I can also imagine the demographic of vegans staying home on election day is not insubstantial.

Trump has a history of deregulating factory farms and is comically misinformed about veganism. One of Trump's likely cabinet members is an insane carnist who eats bear corpses. The 2017–2021 Trump administration's environmental policy was (and continues to be) disastrous and likely led to the unnecessary suffering of billions of sentient animals – including the rolling back of the EPA's powers through SCOTUS appointments, heavily deregulating the fossil fuel industry, loosening restrictions on imported "trophies" of endangered animals, removing funding for the protection of endangered species, pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accords, being a superspreader for FUD about important sources of renewable energy, deregulating animal agriculture, allowing the logging industry to run wild on protected forests, and I could go on.

Will a Harris–Walz administration fix animal agriculture? No. Is it likely it would at least try to make it slightly better? I would say so. Is it absolutely, 100%, beyond a shadow of a doubt going to be better/substantially less bad than a Trump–Vance administration? Yes. Not only that, but a 2025–2029 Trump administration would have much, much fewer checks on their destruction of the environment and of regulations against the abuse of animals than their first administration thanks to their prior dismantling of checks and balances.

Please, on November 5th or if your state is still doing early voting, get out there and keep that cruel bastard out of office, and vote downballot too for politicians who are going to be less hostile to animal welfare than Republicans. Human welfare is animal welfare, and that will be in better (not perfect or even nearly perfect) hands with a Harris administration. But moreover, a Trump presidency would be disastrous for non-human animal welfare both through the deregulation of agriculture and through immense damage to the natural environment. Veganism is the reduction of animal exploitation and cruelty by all means practicable, and that makes it our responsibility as vegans to get out the vote and shut this shit down. Trump has already shown us what he would do once, and we can't let him do that again. It's for the animals, and it's for your fellow human.

Edit: a list of just some of the environmental regulations rolled back.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would also like to point out – as I know land animals often get all the attention – that Trump wants to dismantle the NOAA. Under the NOAA is the National Ocean Service, and one of their primary tasks is the conservation of the US' coasts and lakes. It's not just the humans and the other land animals who are in grave danger from a Trump administration; it's the trillions of creatures living within and outside of the US' waters. It's every animal except for a select few rich, corrupt, fascist humans who will be placed in danger by a Trump presidency.

You can check officially if you're registered to vote here.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Vote, volunteer, get involved

Make sure to encourage and remind any dem-leaning friends, family, etc. to get out and vote!

Also consider volunteering to get people to vote yes on Measure J in Sonoma County California. It would phase out any factory farms in the area and be a major first

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd be more than happy to pin a post about Measure J if you'd like to create one.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm actually looking at the calendar of events left for measure J, it seems like the volunteering opportunities (for Measure J specifically) are more limited now at this point. Would have made a post earlier if there was still more open

Still a lot of other volunteering for dems open though I should note

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Still would be more than happy to sticky the post as a way of informing people that it's on the ballot to begin with if you want to.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

https://lemmy.ml/post/22122469

Made a simple post with the initiative's page

[–] supersalad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Is that the one Natalie Fulton is endorsing?

[–] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not in the USA but yeah I kinda agree with you. Even if I believe the candidate put in power doesn't have too much effect I believe it puts you at a "pick your enemy" position. A victory for Trump kind of gives a please exploit us image which wont benefit anyone.

Though I wouldn't consider voting to be a subsidy of political organization and direct action. If given the choice I would rather try to sell someone on organizing to create the cobditions for change than convincing them to cast their ballots.

I would hate to see project 2025 realized but I doubt the Democrats would do much more than making it project 2029 as I seriously doubt they would create the conditions to prevent it.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That explains everything. If Trump eats bear, there's a good chance he fucked up. According to YouTube random shit algorithm videos, improperly cooked bear meat will often contain live worms. I bet one of those worms ended up eating it's way on to the driver's seat. There's probably not much left up in his brain cavity.

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're a non-vegan in the vegan community please remember how important it is to talk about the US election

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

(I'm vegan btw, and I say as much in the post: "it's our responsibility as vegans".)

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You literally said in a comment that you became vegan today in response to this post. I mean I'm all for it good on you but come on now let's not pretend what you're doing isn't something worth taking the piss out of.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You literally said in a comment that you became vegan today in response to this post.

Are you literate? It says "From this day onward, I’m going to be a guy who’s been vegetarian for five years, vegan for two, and decided to moderate and frequent this community about veganism". It's a joke at the expense of people like you who've come here just to concern troll and baselessly claim I'm not actually vegan. Look at the sidebar of the community you're in. Holy fuck.