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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Source, out of curiosity as a long-time foreign resident of Japan?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As someone who's lived in Japan roughly a decade, Finland would either be Santa or aurora based on everyone I've talked to. There are plenty of stereotypes (some of which are accurate in my mind), but this map seems a bit weird

[–] spookex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The usual reaction to me mentioning that I'm from Latvia here is: "Where? and where is that on the map?"

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't care how they got their data, I just love that they ended up with this:

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a person who is Swiss and has lived a while in Japan, everyone says “Heidi”. I think Heidi/the alps is the biggest stereotype of Switzerland to japanese people, not banking.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's "Heidi"? I need to ask my wife about this one. Is the pronunciation like German on this word for reference?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s a swiss story about a little girl who lives and herds cows in the alpine pastures.

And it got turned into a really popular japanese kids anime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi,_Girl_of_the_Alps

Yeah the pronunciation is german but Japanese people tend to pronounce it Haiji ハイジ.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for responding. I'll check it out tomorrow (and ask my wife if she's heard of it)

Edit: after clicking the link, I have definitely seen the image wiki uses several times

[–] Louisoix@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Same here, but I've noticed that, at least from my circle here, people don't know too much about countries in Europe. Not that they really should, I guess. I'm from the Czech Republic, and usually I should point it on a map for people to understand better where it is.

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

"Love Japan " not represented in France wtf? We consume the most Japan media after the Japan itself :)

[–] thebigslime@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

France is full of weeb?

Oh boy you have no idea , we had huge access to manga and anime since before the USA and that influenced a part of our pop culture since the 80s.

[–] thebigslime@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fascinating!

[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was told by my parents(boomers/Gen X) that cartoons airing on Italian TV in the 1980s were anime. Dubbed and with a custom intro, sure, but anime.

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's possible I know that Spain had sometimes been ahead of France for dragonball arc. But i m a gen z I just heard that , i could be wrong

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

They created the original weeb word in the 1800s, Japonisme

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Whe host one of the biggest Japanese culture convention every year.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago

Especially during and just following the bubble economy in Japan, a lot of people would go to France and get completely shocked. They largely went to Paris and we're shocked that it was not romance, fantasy, and love, but regular Parisians. There is a word in japanese パリ病 (Paris sickness) to describe the disillusionment of it all.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

For some reason, pretty much nobody knows that except the French, lol. I only know it because of Polandball.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Even ignoring media consumption, we have a ton of deluded Japan stans too

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know why that is? I never really thought about that, but as a child, before i knew what anime or manga is, we went to france a lot on vacation. Back then the only anime i knew was heidi and drangonball, and that was before the frieza saga even aired. But there, kids my age had dbz video games, a ton of mangas and anime. I bought some mangas and was blown away to read the story where golu goes super saiyan.

And even now, i deadass wouldn't know where i would buy a manga, but if i cross the french border and go to a normal supermarket, they have a whole isle just manga.

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

The biggest tvshow aimed for kids switched from French cartoon to anime because it was cheaper ,so it influenced a lot the kids and our pop culture. That s one big reason , there are surely other factors but I don't know them.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seeing Poland Ball on this makes me wonder exactly what kind of sample of people they polled. Is this all redditors?

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

I googled poland ball and immediately thought that that chart is just a reddit sample then

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is "killed jews" really a stereotype of it's true?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It’s just a way of deflecting the subject of Unit ~~271~~ 731.

Edit: They really should have named that something easier to remember, like “Crimes against humanity unit” or something.

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[–] Sakychu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Germany's stereotype of Japanese is that they raped straighted through China.

[–] Louisoix@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think so tbh. Japan did a lot of horrendous things back then, but it's still not nearly as infamous as Nazi Germany at that time. The only time I hear or see any mention of that is usually when someone praises anything Japanese and the other person wants to show how extremely highly educated they are by noting that Japan did something terrible more than half a century ago.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

America downplayed it because it launched straight into the Cold War alliance propaganda and remembering it would be inconvenient while trying to build alliances against China and Russia.

I don't know what Germany teaches about the invasion of China and the occupation of Korea and the Pacific islands, but I can certainly see why both East and West Germany would teach it in school.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

If I remember correctly it was mentioned when we were talking about warcrimes and the war in the Pacific but obviously never to the extent of what happened in Europe.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

If only.

Goddamn Serbs.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Well, at least we've got something better than vodka lmao

[–] barcaxavi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As a Hungarian myself, I can only say: Hello! We're also here 👋

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

[Citation needed]

[–] DampCanary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

whell r/AskAJapanese and quora say nothing is known.

Shame, should export the halászlé and gulyás.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 5 points 2 weeks ago

As a person living in one of the displayed countries I can confirm the accuracy regarding said country in this map which may or may not be fake.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like that all the lesser known Balkan countries just get “proud”.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

But it's also true

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder why my country Austria has the musical label

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 5 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe it's referring to the musical, The Sound Of Music?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 2 weeks ago

Mozart, Schubert, Hayden, Strauss...

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Portugal is kind of mean...

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. Portugal is unforgivably dismissive.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

how old is this? financial collapse for Greece, really?

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago
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