Don’t deal with them. Walk away. You’re allowed to be mad at your parents for electing a felon dictator. You’re allowed to hate them and not talk to them again. That’s their loss, and you don’t need such toxic people in your life.
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Here is where I am at and why. I believe that the next administration is a significant risk for the country, the envionment, and will likely have global geopolitical implications on what happens to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Gaza. The immigration policy and rehetoric is unbelievably hateful, not based on reality, and will likely be an unmitigated disaster. The promises to eliminate the ACA and governmental regulatory bodies/oversight in the EPA, FDA, and NOAA make all our our lives more risky and worse. Specifically though, they my MY KIDS LIVES MORE RISKY. If you are going to actively vote against MY KIDS, YOUR GRANDKIDS lives/futures in such a fundamental way, you don't get to be a part of my life.
I'm in hard agreement with you, EuroTrip Yoda (had to).
My in-laws definitely voted Harris, my dad passed 4 years ago (Vietnam vet - not a trump fan), and my mom went down an idiotic rabbit hole. I haven't talked to my mom in weeks, and I'm sure she knows why.
She also doesn't know that we are planning to leave the country. I can't stay in a place that will reduce my daughter to a second class citizen without bodily autonomy. Yet that's what the nitwit I called "Mom" voted for.
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I'm not young anymore but I would say that I'll never forgive my parents for their blind support of this shit.
The same people who have the nerve to tell you (fakely) they're proud of you and think you're really smart. But somehow I'm wrong about every single thing I've told them about trump for 9 years now
Same. It's like you give them a situation, a fact, and how it applies. You ask for understanding and it's " maaaa maaaa MAGA! SHE TURNED BLACK SHE SLEPT HER WAY TO THE TOP"
But yeah, MY sources are wrong, and biased.
Right. I think my dad especially has the attitude that it's a) not really important enough to talk about and b) he gave up on the concept of him being wrong decades ago. He just couldn't be, so yes my sources are obviously all wrong. Any implication that he is wrong is unacceptable to his fragile ego. So fucking weak.
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I’m late 50’s and so is my wife. My parents are gone but hers are all MAGA all the time. She hasn’t talked to them much in years. It’s not just younger adults but older ones as well. I still have trouble comprehending what has happened.
I'm in my 40s and I always wonder "am I still young people?" When these articles come up. Middle age and modern society be weird.
Late 30s here, everyone is getting considered young people until the boomers and Silents die
poor gen x. they're either boomers or millenials. Gen X doesn't exist.
(/mild sarcasm)
42 here. I don't feel old yet, that's all that matters. I'm still doing the same shit I did in my twenties more or less. Except for needing a bit more caffeine nowadays to get going.
The people 20 years younger than me do seem to be getting weirder and weirder though. I also noticed the old cliques are gone (skaters, emos, 'gangstas', jocks, etc.) and everyone just kinda does their own thing now.
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My wife and I are not going to her side of family's Thanksgiving this year since they are full Trumpers. Not worth seeing them since we don't like them that much anyhow and they will be insufferable this year. We are in our mid 30s.
It's not the only reason (they're just truly terrible people across the board), but no one in my family has talked with my grandparents on my dad's side in many, many years because of this. Rightwing nutjobs with no grip on reality and no idea how shitty they are. I'm pretty sure they don't even know that they are great grandparents now (technically, anyway).
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"conspiracy theories" like White People are The Genetic Master Race , Black People Haven't Ever Invented Anything As Far As I know, Political Disagreements Of Any Kind Only Began After We Let Women Vote , Racial Equality is a Communist Plot Maybe, Lets Not Have It, If a Single Italian Is In Heaven, I'll Throw Myself Into Hell , and I Drove By a School and Saw a Mexican Kid, This Country Is Already Lost, And I Bet The Jews Did It
Top 10 bangers
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Studies suggest political divisions are increasingly seen as moral judgments, fostering a “mega-identity” where political views signify personal decency.
I think this is important information that doesn't get enough attention. The divisions that exist in the US today are often portrayed in the media as mostly superficial, as though we only disagree on the minor details of public policy choices, but generally agree on the core principles. I don't think that's true. I think there are significant ideological, philosophical, and moral disagreements among Americans. We have fundamentally different ideals, and we have differing visions of how America should be, and for how people should act and behave.
There are not only two different visions. I don't think it is a strict dichotomy. I think there are several different, visions for the US. Some left, some right; some that want to focus on religious, social, cultural, or ethnic issues, some that want to focus on economic or material issues. There are multiple different ideals competing for supremacy, since the US is a de facto two party system, the winners are which ever groups can form the largest coalition of voters.
There is only 2 basic core values.
The right: some people are better than others, and the betters should rule. They differ on what makes someone "better", but that's about it. The left: Everyone is equal, some people need more help than others. They differ on who needs the help.
The thing that really gets me about that quote is that of course your politics are a reflection of your morals. If you're willing to vote for the bigots, it's because, at best, you're ignorant of what they've been saying that they're going to do for a decade now, none of their bigotry is a bridge too far for you, or you actually agree with the bigotry. There are no other possibilities.
Why are they still claiming "fiscal conservatism" is anything more than racism and class warfare by a different name? Why are conservatives "stronger on economy?" Of course this is causing divides about morals; a vote for the GOP is a vote for oppression and hate.
This bullshit dog-whistling by the media has to stop or we're just letting 70+ million American voters off the hook by letting them claim "but I'm just worried about the economy."
edit: I can't find the source right now, but there's a quote about this. I'm paraphrasing, but it goes something like "historians have a term they use for a person who voted for Hitler because they liked his economic policies. That term is 'Nazi'"
Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.
That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?
—A.R. Moxon
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Dump your family. If this is how they’re gonna behave they don’t deserve you.
Also get them the shitty nursing home.
Nursing home? They can figure that out on their own or they can eat shit. I'm not doing anything for those fucking Nazis anymore.
First make sure you’re not in one of the 30 states with Filial Responsibility laws. From that site: ”Filial responsibility laws impose a legal obligation on adult children to take care of their parents’ basic needs and medical care.”
Every state’s laws are different and some states have never enforced them, but it’s definitely something to be aware of. It also might be a good idea to start keeping records/documentation of fights in case you need to argue such a law some day.
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According to everything I've read, Trump was voted in by every demographic in swing states and even non-swing states.
I know that it's a instinctive flex to dump on boomers (with good reason) but this calls for a bit more of a deeper analysis.
Fuentes, Gaetz, MTG, Miller, Boebert, Lake -- none of these people are boomers. GenX at most and a lot of millennials. A quick glance through the Southern Poverty Law Center's Leaders of the Radical Right show a lot in their 30s and 40s. Boomers vote and spend money, but they're largely too old to be activists in the traditional sense.
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I say this, as a parent, to people who worry about cutting off their parents if their parents are toxic people:
You owe your parents nothing. You did not ask to be born. They owe you everything. That's their duty.
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Aren't tons of young adults also MAGA now
Yeah, the generational divisions aren't clean any longer. Young men voted for Trump, thanks to social media "alpha" male influencers and recommendation algorithms.
Boomers were drawn in to MAGA to protect their wealth. Gen Z kids were attracted by the promise of lifting them out of poverty and change of the status quo on this. Fascists are really good at convincing people on all parts of the economic spectrum.
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This headline is stupid.
Maga is the taliban, they're the feeling of disgust made into a group, and they're driving their friends and family away, and then dipshit news articles like this one pretend that it's the normal people's issue.
This headline is stupid.
Tbf the article is from Teen Vogue. It's a publication meant for teenagers and is probably trying to relate to them more than the MAGA parents
Parents? My friend volunteered as a poll worker on the University campus here. At his location, 25% of the students voted for the orange fascist.
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