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Vivek Ramaswamy, recently appointed to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has proposed defunding federal programs that lack current congressional authorization.

This could affect programs like veterans’ healthcare, NASA, and early education initiatives, which still receive funding despite expired authorizations.

Ramaswamy argues that cutting these programs could save billions, and he’s committed to targeting expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”

DOGE, co-led by Elon Musk, aims to curb government spending, with Musk estimating potential cuts of up to $2 trillion.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do it. Cut tricare too. I don’t want those things gone, but holy hell yes please eliminate the willingness of the military to aid you against the constitution. Defund barrack improvements and force married troops to bring their spouses into the barracks while you’re at it.

Crash and burn and let us rebuild America with an understanding it wasn’t immigrants or trans people that did this, it was rich people and fascists.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago

As a former military child, I largely agree with cutting tricare. It's pretty good, and military people take for granted that they get socialized Healthcare but not the rest of us. Yeah, "serving the country" and all that, but most military personnel aren't doing anything that anyone else isn't doing. Most military personnel are not in combat roles. Everyone should be treated well because everyone benefits the nation. Take away the socialized healthcare of the military and vets and maybe we'll get socialized healthcare in general.

I doubt this will work, but it'll at least force military people to come to terms with the fact they have socialized healthcare and how well it works. My dad at least used to argue with me whenever I called it that. I'm not sure if he still thinks it isn't true. I'm sure other people haven't even considered that that's what it is.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Elon musk being like "all that money we're spending on vets could be going into my pockets."

[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

The status quo is just a lot more visible, now.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 39 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This will piss off every single veteran, active service member, and their relatives. I don't just want this shit to fail, I want people to remember just how little fucks these people give about anyone other than themselves.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 days ago

Republicans have been cutting vet benefits for years, and it hasn’t stopped them from voting red yet.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I want to see these fucks do this then ask for the military to keep them in office when they violate the constitution

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

I kinda have lost faith in most of humanity. At this point I think they will follow orders without question while fully knowing that they will be thrown aside like a moldy bag of garbage as soon as their usefulness is done.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you hear back well they did not realize... you answer with yes, this is how little they care

[–] uis@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Then do universal healthcare, right? Right?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Universally leave you to die if you don't pay, sure.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Typo. Then, not they.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

If they really go whole hog and sell off the hospitals and stuff then I would think the next president would just go to a Veteran's Public Option. There's a world in which 5 years from now we prove Medicare for All works because they deleted the entire side of the VA that does healthcare.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Shameless, veterans risk their lives for their country, the least the govt can do is give them healthcare

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for veterans, they aren't risking their lives for their country. They're risking their lives for the special interests of corporate oligarchs who couldn't care less about them.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I know but that’s a hard sell for poor young recruits, if they knew this more they’d charge like mercenaries

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How is veteran healthcare unauthorized?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It was authorized, but it had an expiration date. Now it's something that we just take for granted so much we never even thought about having to re-authorize it.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

OIC. Well snowballs chance when orange twit assumes the throne

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Really surprised he’s the first republican to try cutting it. They’ve been going after vets for years.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's a political hand grenade. Of course Trump is the only one willing or able to eat it.

[–] BlueMacaw@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is it really a political hand grenade? Seems like majority of vets vote red no matter what.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Nah, they're observant. They have to be. They're trained to be. They may be young and dumb, but they'll see shit like this. Trust me, I've been there. The young ones may vote red but the older ones dont. And that matters in the military.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Watching the latter half of GWOT veterans eat the bait on the Republican line has been really painful for those of us who got home in 2004 and found out what Bush had been telling the people while we were fighting. At least Obama was honest about why he sent us over. It was a fool's errand but better than a snipe hunt disguised as regime change.

[–] BlueMacaw@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd like to believe you, but 65% red is a pretty high number. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/veterans-vote-trump/

That's in the face of nearly every military leader that had contact with Trump saying he was unfit, Trump having that weird campaign event at a cemetery, etc.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

65% with Fox News being shoveled into every chow hall in the military, open recruiting for the republican party, and forced church. That's the highest they're able to get. And a bunch of those do pay attention. In 2020 Active duty voted blue because conservative service members either crossed party lines or stayed home. The veterans who swing hard right get fully captured by the alt right you tube crap too. Come for the cool guns, stay for the speech about Trump. Gods I could go on for hours about that whirlpool of tactical influencers.

But the upside is that anyone who has even a couple braincells no onboard the right wing train bounces right off that stuff. And he might delete our healthcare, but to be honest, and this is the important bit; Veterans don't have enough votes to swing national or state elections. He does this and it's everyone listening to us complain about the sudden lack of healthcare after 2 major wars that he has to worry about.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Optics of cutting the programs aside, it's criminal that beneficial programs like these don't get re-authorized.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Gotta save that money for corporate welfare

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 158 points 1 week ago (16 children)

As someone with just as much federal authority as the non-existent DOGE, I also propose defunding expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”

And I would like to start with fucking Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon fucking Musk.

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 135 points 1 week ago (16 children)

As a US citizen, paying for veterans healthcare and early education programs advance my interests a whole fucking lot more than paying this jackass.

Stupid piece of shit, you don't speak for us.

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