MeanwhileOnGrad

While I have my run ins with tankies sometimes, I actually don’t think it’s that bad. Join an instance that blocks lemmygrad and hexbear, ignore lemmy.ml or block it too and you’re golden.

That’s the power of fediverse, it’s flexibility.

Also tankies have a strong foothold on Lemmy, because they were here first. But they are not as numerous as you or they themself think. Watch them outside of their safespace communities and see them downvoted into oblivion.

Everytime I see these posts and comments I think:

“Where????”

I’ve seen 10 times more people complaining about tankies than actual tankies denying genocide. In fact, I can’t seem to think back to a single instance of someone denying China’s past acts.

Do you guys go to different instances or do you sort by controversial?

My issue with lemmy is that it basically become super political (thank you US election for ruining media again).

It's nice here on instances which have both Grad and Hexbear blocked. I remember the early days on .world, when Grad was still federated. Those were some high-intensity dipshits.

Anyway, you do what you need to for your mental health, my guy/gal/nonbinary pal. If ever you change your mind, most of us brainrotted terminally online types will still be here when you come back - and hopefully will have continued to marginalize the tankie fuckwads.

I took a look at your profile and I think they aren’t the actual problem here. I mean, yes. Their dicksucking of dictators is strong. Like, holy shit! Go easy of the slurping, boys!

But if you waste your time in places where they are dominant, you’re gonna have a bad time no matter what. You should avoid those places or (even better) learn to not give that much of a fuck what others say online. Online communities should not be able to have a significantly negative impact on your mental wellbeing.

I hope you find a bit of relief. Take care!

I blocked ml and hexbear and rarely encounter them now. When I do, I block the user individually. It’s made lemmy delightful, frankly.

There's plenty of instances that block the 2 tankie instances and even .ml. This is a self-inflicted problem.

Yo Mate don't take what you see here so seriously, block .ml and stop looking at your phone. You'll be doing yourself a favour.

I have been in more arguments here than on reddit but I think it has more to do with the fact that I have a certain attachment to this federated platform.

I really want its model to succeed and when I see toxicity here it hurts way more than when it's on reddit/Facebook etc...

A lot of people are here in their own safezone so the moment you disturb someone even so slightly they go berserk.

it's hard to respect shitty opinions but it's best for you to just avoid and block. Real life is stressful enough you don't need to stress yourself more online.

just subscribe and block man. in a buffet you don't have to taste everything. grab what you want. I block magazines im even just not interested in like sports so that when I do all I don't have to see them. there is a wierd view people have that subscribing is great and blocking is bad. if someone subscribes to stuff and never looks at all then its the same as if they blocked everything except what they subscribed to. Its all just filtering.

Can someone fill me into what a tankie is? I'm a progressive socialist, so do I fit that category? I'm genuinely in the dark about it

OP just seems mad that this is a communist safe zone

May I suggest trying out

lemmy.cafe

(which blocks ML too, on top of grad and hexbearg)

and only subscribing to non-political communities

“…and sometimes, I didn't even have the motivation or energy to argue with them.”

May I suggest just ignoring things (words, NOT actions) you don’t agree with? I don’t go to churches / temples / mosques / synagogues etc to yell at believers. I don’t post hunting photos in vegan and veterinarian subs. It takes two to tango.

In my personal experience I see much less “debatability” coming from (some) .world accounts - but I understand user experience varies massively from person to person.

We need a Lemmy tankie blocklist.

On Reddit it was more so the Nazis, while here it's the Tankies that rule the bullshit narratives. And the mod abuse here is also very similar to that on Reddit, which is worrying because the platform is small enough where moderation would be comparatively easier.

That's the thing with the fediverse. You end up getting instances where certain beliefs are held more strongly. The solution is to go somewhere where those instances are just straight up defederated (or ask your instance admin to do something). This does result in the instances who remain federated seeing less push-back against extremist views.

On the fediverse you're more in control of what you're able to see through your choice of instance, which affects the "all" view, and which comments show up on posts, obviously defederated instances' comments won't be there; who you follow or what communities you subscribe to, and your block lists.

If your instance chose not to do anything about tankie instances (or individual tankie accounts), then that's on your instance and its admins, not Lemmy as a whole.

You can try https://lemmy.cafe

Ml, grad and Hexbear are defederated.

I'm a leftie, but not a tankie. I'm not a fan of autocracy, or defending atrocities. Tankies are misguided but there are many decent communists, even if I do not agree with their views.

On Reddit, the Overton window is way over to the right. You make the point their posts are downvoted to oblivion. Of course with that, any left wing view is often down voted to oblivian. In a space where it is left leaning, like Lemmy, you don't get that and you have a more diverse debate. You'll get liberals over on .world engaging with communists, socialists and tankies. Some can handle a site where left wing views are allowed. Some won't. You have a block feature where you can block, grad, hexbear and even lemmy.ml if you're really struggling to digest left views.

If not, maybe your views are more rightwards than you realise and that bias on reddit is more comfortable. If that is the case, it may be better for you over there.

I personally don't get how people cannot understand that people have different views, especially in different countries. I'm left in the UK, a socialist, and sometimes Americans think that is a euthenism for communism because they cannot comprehend that the state can have a role in reducing inequality.

You highlight that genocide denial is rampant, but I see here people comfortable to be critical of Israel's treatment of Palestine. I think only some genocides/atrocities you want to see discussed.

Either way, I hope you find an environment you're comfortable in. Not everything has to be a battle.