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An Idaho doctor testified that confusion over the state’s strict abortion bans left a miscarrying patient “passed around like a hot potato” as doctors avoided treating her out of fear of legal consequences.

The 14-week pregnant woman, suffering heavy bleeding and anemia, was denied care during three ER visits before being admitted against hospital rules, miscarrying, and requiring a blood transfusion.

The testimony is part of a lawsuit challenging Idaho’s abortion laws, which ban most abortions with few exceptions, leaving patients in dangerous situations without timely care.

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 151 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At this point these abortion bans should be called Matricide Approvals

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Genuinely, they should be called Matricide Laws. Tank it the same way Republicans keep trying to tank "Obamacare"

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Matricide is too fancy a word.

Give it something simpler and more outrageous, like “Killing Moms Law” and talk about the Trump death panels who chose this.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Nah you gotta balance the number of syllables in each word to make it catchy. "Dead Moms Law" or "Mommy Murder Law"

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Widower-maker.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Mama murder pact

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They're the ones who came up with the name Obamacare, so that it would tank on name alone.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, exactly. Which is why people should start going to town hall meetings, Senate hearings, etc. and asking various questions about "Matricide Laws." When they get corrected that these are abortion bans, explain that the law is killing hopeful mothers and these lawmakers are okay with it—if matricide wasn't the point, it certainly appears to be a welcome side-effect.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Remember when Republicans hated the idea of death panels?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every private insurer has a death panel that is only accountable to share holders. Progressives need to start framing stuff in those terms instead of letting the Republicans bully them into accepting their framing.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The republican party is constantly able to dominate the conversation. Every election cycle they decide whether immigration/economics/war/whatever is what will be discussed and the democrats try to play defense instead of just calling them out.

"Death panels already exist do you want them to be purely for-profit?" it's not even that hard they're just incompetent.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Part of it is that they want to placate their "moderate" wing too (read: the donors). If your plan is Medicare for All, you can say that and it's easy to explain to people. If your plan is the Affordable Care Act, you'll still have the for profit death panels, so you'd have to say something like: 'we'll regulate the existing death panels slightly more and force you to sign up to them', which doesn't actually sound that great.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Every accusation is a confession. These won’t be the only death panels, either. Far, far worse is to come. They’re willing to kill anyone in defence of their supposed ‘superior morals’.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Every accusation is a confession.

Edit: Ah should have read down before replying, but fuck it, it bears repeating.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

These aren't death panels, they are death funnels.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 64 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Hollywood should start making movie after movie where the protagonist loses a loved one to some fucking asinine Republican laws, and then just goes on a vengeance spree.

Build a whole new MCU-style universe just around the backwards-ass shitstain policies coming out of these freeloader states, and a whole cast of kid-diddling fuckwads who are taken out by the wrath of righteous anger. People would watch that shit.

[–] dragonfucker 19 points 1 month ago

They aborted his wife... He's not pro-life anymore

Fourth Trimester: coming soon to a theatre near you

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this the second plot that Hallmark has discovered?

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hero drops a card on the bodies of his fallen enemies

"Have a Hallmark moment, assholes"

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That would be awesome.

Get Bruce Willis to do it.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A 90s Bruce, definitely. Today's, not so much...

Perhaps Jason Statham? Bruce Campbell?

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, they've already co-opted the Punisher - an anti-cop vigilante - into their iconography, despite being the party of the "thin blue line" and "the party of law and order." Anything we could hope to create to satirize them would just arouse them without a sense of irony or self awareness.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The boys would disagree. You just make it more and more obvious who the bad guys are, the longer it goes.

[–] KittyCat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"God Bless America" is almost that

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hot potato is the Republican form of health care.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh patients get hot potatoe'd all the time it's just usually they're full code violent dementia patients. OB hot potatoes are just the new fad in overly legally complicated patients no one wants to be officially responsible for when they die. The republican party is the party of the freedom to die in a ditch full of maggots when your ~~death panel~~ insurance review board (chaired by an eye doctor who's been out of practice for 10 years after committing fraud) denies your chemo treatment juuust long enough that you're better off dying quickly and getting out of their hair.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone else remember Death Panels?

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

I don't think insurance claim review boards went away.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They have concepts of a plan though.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"I was working with some amazing nurses and we decided as a team that we were going to break our hospital's rules and admit her, even though she wasn't 20 weeks pregnant because I just couldn't send her home again and hope for the best," Lyons said.

More like this please. Fuck your hospital's rules, make something up if you need to, this is someone's life. Bureaucracy isn't really very good at checking itself and a lot of rules get broken "by mistake". If the rules are bad, don't follow them. If anyone actually gets on your case, "I'm sorry, I guess I misremembered the policy and was worried about protecting the hospital from liability".

Employees on the front lines have a lot more power to grind dumb rules to dust than they think.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

It just sucks that it was her FOURTH visit to the ER.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

First do no harm

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Isn’t this a more Kafka version of death panels that we were promised under Obamacare.

There is no death panel however you have been deemed to die by the death panel. Good luck navigating the bureaucracy.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

You have to actually read a book to even know what you mean when you say "Kafka." So good luck convincing anyone with that.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Over-kafka systems have worked so well when dealing with immigration, disability, medical, and veteran affairs. Worked well as in saved money by not providing services because they made them too complicated.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 18 points 1 month ago

She miscarried? Damn, life in prison.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's going to get worse. What I have not seen is how we help. What actions can we take today, tomorrow, and next week will help those impacted by this step backward? I get being mad. I get being informed. But elections put us in a precarious place and real people need help tomorrow...now. Every one of these articles should include a call to action and I have a 9 to 5 trying to keep mine above water so just tell me. We need to solve problems.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well no worries, once Trump is in office these women won't have any healthcare available to them.