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    Windows VS Linux (lemmy.world)
    submitted 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by trespasser69@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     
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    [–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

    Why do all my homies use Linux Mint while I use Ubuntu?

    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    Windows requires pressing next 12 times, what are you people smoking and can I haz?

    [–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 19 minutes ago

    There's also a number of things you have to click "no" on, like a free trial office or Onedrive.

    It took me around an hour to set up my new Win 11 laptop, most of which was downloading and installing updates. I expected far worse.

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

    With a MS account. Which spies on everything and sells your info.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

    I love Debian, but it's installer is shit.

    [–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    With archinstall script you can install Arch in less than 1 minutes (not counting copying system files)

    [–] moon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    As much as I wish this were true, this is in a bubble where Windows isn't already preinstalled on everything.

    [–] Astertheprince@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    It said "(Debloated)" you still have to debloat it even if it's already installed and has enough storage for your liking.

    [–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 1 points 42 seconds ago

    If you actually read the whole graph, you'll see windows has 2 entries.

    [–] Txmyx@feddit.org 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Installing windows takes stupidly long. You have to click through 60 pages and click "No, i don't want to share my data" just for them to collect it anyway

    [–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    Who installs an unmodified installer package? That's just silly. Setup your installer using Rufus or something similar and this is not an issue.

    [–] Crafter72@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

    Is there any guide to install this Debloated Windows? 🤔

    So far what I used is to use debloater script and also to disable that windows update service related stuff. Just wondering whether there is more unhinged part in it.

    Also no custom rom android image? because technically it use older and customized linux kernel.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    The windows one seems exaggerated until you try to set it up with a regular local account.

    Setting up a scratch install VM is such a pain.

    [–] Crafter72@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

    Yeah, setup win 10 install on qemu may need to jump some hoop, especually when you want to enable features like gpu pass through.

    Although qemu may not be as easy as virtualbox/vmware, the performance is worth it.

    [–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Stupid list leaves off the most popular linux install and puts that fringe one in.

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago
    [–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    Having installed both recently, Manjaro is slightly easier than Fedora (KDE spin), never tried to install Mint so I don't know if it's above or below that

    [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 37 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
    [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    Where does a Hackintosh fall in?

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    The hardest one at all. You have to afford a new computer every 2 years.

    [–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

    At the top because you risk going to jail for violating the Apple terms of service/end user license agreement.

    [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

    lol. They only ever pursed anyone for selling Mac clones or hardware for doing it. And the hardware was just a preconfigured usb drive with a motherboard connector on it. I think there were actual Apple devs moonlighting as hackintosh contributors.

    [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

    Well Mac users do too... Well they don't... but someone does.

    I was that someone for some family members. I felt icky the whole time.

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    [–] sfunk1x@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

    Isn't mint a downstream product of Ubuntu? I haven't paid attention to them since they were distributing images from a compromised WordPress site years ago 😂

    Maybe I've been DDing Ubuntu for so long that I just couldn't be bothered to try another distro based on it. I want to try a rolling release distro, but I'm too old to distro hop. All I care about is a functional system anymore.

    I set up a kiosk on a Linux Mint machine today. From blank, unformatted drive to fully deployed kiosk, it took less time than just installing a base install of win11.

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

    i seriously do not understand what's up with some of you, why do you spell stuff like in "m$". The extra work to type it like this doesn't matter at all. It makes no difference, Microsoft will not shut down because you spelled their name as "micro$oft" on your lemmy post or something like that. why do you keep doing this, i don't understand.

    [–] Nelots@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

    If I were to take a guess, it's probably just a censorship joke. Censoring the word implies that it is inappropriate to say. Like when people say Fr*ench".

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

    It's literally one more keystrokes, and people who do it often in a phone probably have it autocomplete. This message took much longer to write than probably every single time the OP has written MS as M$.

    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

    Windows 10 is easy to install... If everything goes well. And 2 out of 3 times in my experience, it doesn't.

    [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

    Lol it's not that hard. It's just a matter of what you are used to.

    [–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

    difficulity

    The difficulity of spelling difficulity is very difficulit.

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 83 points 11 hours ago (11 children)

    I've never "debloated" Windows so idk about the top half.

    The bottom half is accurate. Debian, Fedora, and Mint are easier to install than Windows 10 or 11. Not that Windows is difficult, it's just a bit clunky and idiosyncratic.

    I assume Microsoft doesn't care much about the installer since it's generally only used by OEMs, whereas for Linux distros it's a first impression so it has to be polished.

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    No excuse though. Try the "install as oem" of Linux Mint. You get an install with temporary oem account, you can update the system, install additional programs, then click "Prepare for shipping to end user" and on next boot you're greeted with a setup screen.

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    [–] RGB@lemmy.today 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Debloated windows is very easy. Installs super fast and I don't even have to be there to push any buttons.

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    [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 39 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Almost everyone using Linux installed it. Almost no one using Windows installed it.

    You don't think that many people build their own Windows PCs? Linux gaming isn't that old in the grand scheme of things, and there's plenty of people who dual boot for various reasons.

    I'd almost be willing to bet that there are more people who've installed Windows on their PC than there are people who've installed Linux from a pure numbers standpoint.

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