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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

This is why Reagan was so hot to get rid of the Fairness Doctrine.

Under the old rules, no one entity could own more than one TV station in a town. Most towns had an independent newspaper. Reagan changed the rules so we have fewer and fewer companies controlling more and more of the information.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The power of Republican organizations far exceed anything about Trump. People voting for him have been starved of information and manipulated about everything by conservative media for decades.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not for nothing, but the entire conservative media apparatus, as well as the GOP establishment, all lined up against Trump in 2016. He walked right through them, put Jeb Bush in a headlock, and walked off with the nomination.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He ended up getting so much free advertising from the supposed liberal media in 2016 too, though. Much was negative, but still, they never stopped talking about him. They did the same thing this year.

While many republicans were against him in 2015, they quickly lined up behind him once his popularity was obvious and for the most part, still are.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oh, yeah, for sure. The news media (looking at you, CNN) gave him $2 billion in free airtime that year, and the Hillary campaign was secretly boosting him behind the scenes. Also, the Republicans absolutely fell in line once he was the nominee. Still, that primary proved that all the conservative organizations were helpless to stop him.

This election has shown us that Americans are stupid and racist enough to believe in any promise you tell them regardless of stupid or far fetched they are and elect liars wholeheartedly.

So honestly the lesson learned is to promise the masses anything and everything and who giving cares of they deliver or not and just blame Republicans for getting in the way, true or not.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago (36 children)

according to computer security experts, the US presidential election was likely hacked via voting software.

The numbers Trump achieved are non-credible.

https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's prove it. The GOP might call fowl, but who gives a fuck, they ought to be thrilled to prove election fraud.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

right, let's count manually.

Just to make sure.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think it'd be good to select a handful of the most statistically unlikely outcomes and hand recount, if for no other reason than to put these rumours to bed.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

4 years ago, we know for sure because conspirators in the fake elector scheme have talked to the doj and the FBI that they tried to steal the presidential election by manipulating votes.

2 years after that, Trump's lawyers had people steal the software from the voting machines that 90% of voters in those swing States used.

so a bunch of computer scientists are saying hey. they literally already tried to do it and failed, let's make sure they didn't try and succeed this time.

it's more than an outlandish theory, it's voting manipulation that we know has already happened and we know could happen again, except this time they have had the voting software for 3 years

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those are some actually compelling points

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yeah these are serious facts that need to leads to action.

they're shocking, and undeniable since the connection between Trump's lawyers and the stolen voting software was documented in accord case as having happened.

and those statistical improbabilities concerning the ballots are insane, and only occurred in the seven swing States.

sorry, I know I'm repeating what you just wrote, it's just blowing my mind right now.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah the crazy difference in bullet votes this year vs last year AND the differences between voting locations this year is simply undeniable. It's highly improbable to be so different ONLY where Republicans most needed the wins.

I would have thought all the other points were total nonsense if not for the statistical anomalies.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

we're still in the fog of the election, and there's only that one guy that pit forth all those numbers, The other computer scientists are much more concerned that Trump's lawyers admitted to stealing and having access to the voting software itself, so we have to wait for it to shake out, but if those numbers are accurate then they're absolutely insane.

[–] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That was n addition to the 2.7 million who had their right to vote silently challenged with the abuse pf an old Jim Crow law, to stop their votes from being counted.

I think Trump wasn’t really making an accusation in 2020. He was making a threat.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

He was pre-discrediting legitimate concerns of fraud by first raising his own obviously illegitimate concerns of fraud. Now the "I think there was fraud" well has been poisoned.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

exactly, my voter registration was purged and I had to re-register this year.

there's been election interference going on by Republicans for decades and this time they stole voting software specifically used in the presidential election, there are good reasons why we should do manual ballot counts.

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[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

“It’s a lie that these machines aren’t connected to the internet. They're not supposed to be connected to the internet while they're doing tabulation—but you don't know what was loaded in there for the software.”

Mr Spoonamore might just be ever so slightly full of shit.

Dominion voting systems are designed and certified by the U.S. government to be closed systems that do not connect to the Internet. State and local requirements also serve to maintain air gaps for security.1

Air gap means no physical connection. Software can't make a network connection if there's no hardware for it to control.

Edit to get ahead of the questions: I'm aware wifi exists, my point is an air gapped machine shouldn't even have a NIC, wireless or otherwise. No NIC = no hardware for any software to make an network connection with.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

USB NICs are a thing. I don't know the hardware honestly but that's actually a good thing. Def con has shown for years the security on these systems are trivial, hard recounts and audits should be common practice.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the Dems swept, they would’ve brought back the black bunned Burger King hamburger.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the Dems had won, they would have brought back Ecto Cooler Kool-Aid.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[–] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Time to rally for a new party thats neither dem nor corrupt

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