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Western headlines after Israel violates the ceasefire in Lebanon in one day (lemmy.world)

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 61 points 2 years ago

the 'ceasefire' was violated not by gunfire ?? what the actual fuck??

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 2 years ago

Its Israel and Zionist bullshit as usual. Why are you surprised?

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 27 points 2 years ago

yeah youre not wrong. i just got hopeful that maybe less people would die. its just so blatantly illogical and downright evil.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 years ago

this is what the "the victims can be who de-escalate first" crowd are actually advocating. they may not realize it but their words mean the victim should just lay down and get genocided

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

pats shoulder yup. Unfortunately our government is run by absolute monsters.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

Full text: The Israel-Hezbollah ceasefire deal

From 04:00 hours (IST/EET), November 27, 2024 forward, the Government of Lebanon will prevent Hezbollah and all other armed groups in the territory of Lebanon from carrying out any operations against Israel, and Israel will not carry out any offensive military operations against Lebanese targets, including civilian, military, or other state targets, in the territory of Lebanon by land, air, or sea.

We are going to see some incredible mental gymnastics in the coming hours.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 2 years ago

"It was defensive! They moved stuff!"

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

Very similar to the Lemmy tankies arguing that Russia was forced to attack Ukraine by the Ukranian crimes of protesting and voting.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

that shit makes me question the value of this platform. my Ukrainian friends don't take shit like that kindly, and i love them too much not to also be like, "hey. fuck off"

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

I feel bad for all the Lebanese who fled to Syria and came back during this “ceasefire” only to have to leave again.

[-] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 21 points 2 years ago

They shouldn't have violated the ceasefire by returning to ~~Northern Israel~~ ~~Their Homes~~ a DMZ.

/s, obviously I hope.

[-] guy@piefed.social 39 points 2 years ago

"Somebody moved! Fire!"
Would be proper for Israel to admit that the ceasefire was violated because they started to shoot.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

FUCK ISRAEL

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Israel bombed Lebanon twice with airstrikes in the last hour. No retaliation from Hezbollah so far. The Reuters headline:

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I accidentally jinxed it a couple of days ago when I saw the post about a ceasefire and I commented "Good Luck." My bad, guys.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Oh there were probably a few million of us muttering that.

[-] mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago

Will Trump's team continue to claim this as his achievement?

[-] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

ReUtErS iS uNbIaSeD

[+] Affidavit@lemm.ee -35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What?

I only see articles constantly, incessantly, calling out Israel for being the incarnation of evil in the most biased one-sided hypocritical manner possible. I honestly couldn't say the last time I read an article that was even slightly biased in favour of Israel.

One of these days, I wouldn't mind reading one of these alleged 'Western headlines' (naturally, that is, not in a cherry-picked screenshot), if for nothing else than for a change in perspective. Personally, I don't really have strong opinions either way in the Israel-Hamas-Hezbollah conflict, though I sympathise for all the innocent victims. I truly wish for a return to the Journalistic Creed though; journalists should deliver factual information in as non-biased manner as possible, they shouldn't be acting as politicians trying to manipulate people by twisting words to build their narrative.

Absolutely sick of reading nonsensical trash like this. Only a fucking blind idiot would believe that 'Western media' as a matter of course favours Israel. I guarantee, for every 1 'Western' headline supporting Israel, there'll be a dozen others decrying them.

[-] belastend@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 years ago

Okay. Go to the nytimes website. Search for Israel. And then look at the language used for Israeli Actions compared to Hamas Actions.

"Conducts military strike" vs. "Fires rockets" "X palestinians left dead" vs. "Israelis killed"

And then go to Fox news or any of the more conservative newsites. Look at german news outlets. "The incarnation of evil" is a treatment reserved for Russia and Hamas in these circles, Israel is more like a morally wonky friend, who is still supported.

The further you go back, the less the actual negative press about Israel, despite the nature of the conflict from the beginning.

[+] Affidavit@lemm.ee -20 points 2 years ago

Bullshit.

It's easy to cherry pick articles to generate a false narrative by navigating to the most conservative outlets.

Why don't you try and search any popular search engine for 'Israel Lebanon News' in a private browser (to remove yourself from a browser bubble) and then try to claim that the wording in Western headlines favours Israel. All I see, in consecutive order of search results is: 'Israel launches first airstrike...', 'Israel forces open fire in Lebanon...', 'UN troops patrol Israel-Lebanon border...', 'Lebanon deploys army on 2nd day...', 'Israel fires on Southern Lebanon...', 'Israel conducts first strike on Lebanon'.

Note that 4 of these portray Israel as the antagonist, 1 is neutral, and 1 portrays Lebanon as the antagonist.

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you fire a missile, you antagonise. Have you got information on context where Hezbollah took the first action?

It's not bias if it's an actual fact.

The second I understand can be perceived as biased language.

Did the rocket fire first or did the army move first? Was the army movement against the ceasefire terms? Help me understand where you see the bias is.

[+] Affidavit@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry? Were we talking about whether Western media was biased towards Israel? Are we now discussing the etymology of the word 'bias'?

Frankly, I'm not interested in playing your game. We are taking about headlines? The headlines by and large are in opposition to Israel, which contradicts the ludicrous claim of the OP.

I refuse to play sneaky games to switch the dialogue elsewhere. The articles I provided were legitimately as unbiased as I could think of (Duckduckgo, search term 'Israel Lebanon Conflict', in a private tab, English language, consecutive order). They were definitively NOT in support of Israel, which contradicts the silly claim of the OP.

I accept that most people will refuse to see the nonsensical silliness of the OP's argument. I'm not interested in discussing blame and where it should be directed.

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

There was no game. You just struggled to make a case and dare not respond to any of my points.

Looks like you enjoy headlines "Palestinians (that could be Hamas) liberated from life" glossing over Israel's war crimes.

[-] Affidavit@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago

No. My argument is that Western media is not biased in support of Israel. When challenged on this point, your argument is to accuse me of craving the death of Palestinians.

You are an immature child. Honestly sick of this crap. Past time I blocked this community.

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

You ignored any of my points and did not engage in good faith.

You expect me to act in good faith while you don't? Are you a troll?

When you don't get a response you don't like, you threaten with blocking?

You call me a child, but you tantrum and run away.

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