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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 108 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

It's kinda funny to read through this thread ngl.

Everyone claiming: "OH WOW PRICES WILL BE LOWER" or "OH MAN DEVS WILL PROFIT SO MUCH MORE!!!!!"

You know who profits? Publishers. The ones already taking 80 - 90% of a games revenue. Devs don't see shit of that. And for indie devs that don't have a publisher, the 30% cut is a godsend considering that steam is handling everything in the distribution chain.

You guys are fighting for corpos that want to buy their 5th luxury yacht.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

People who genuinely believe game prices will get lowered if stores take a smaller cut are delusional. You can literally look at the Epic Game Store and see that it isn't even remotely true. The only games on there that are cheaper than on Steam are the ones Epic invested in specifically to entice developers/gamers to use their services. The ones that don't have exclusivity deals are the same as on Steam.


Edit: changed "take a cut" to "take a smaller cut".

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbf, any game that's on both steam and Epic Game Store will be priced the same, because anything other than steam having the lowest available price is against Steam's terms of service. You cannot be priced lower on another platform. GOG and a few others like it get around this by selling steam keys.

While that's in place, you definitely can not see prices go lower.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Nope, that's a misconception/misinformation. That's just for Steam Keys (i.e. you can't sell Steam Keys cheaper than on Steam). Everything else is fair game.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMO the only way game prices will get lower is if people just stop buying them at the higher prices. If the price of a game goes from $60 to $100 and people complain but still buy the game, then the next one's going to be $100 too (or more.)

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Didn't the Epic lawsuits against Apple and Google end up showing Valves Steam cut ended up working out to something closer to 20% after all the key sales and whatever other factors. Plus EGS already does less than 20% cut and it's been like 6+ years and that client is still bare bones and they don't even do gift cards or price lower. Same for Microsofts store which I believe is lower on PC while still 30% on console.

Regardless at best this lawsuit would just mean an end to 3rd party steam key sales or Valve taking a 30% cut on those too. At best a victory against Valve would mean more expensive games with the loss of keysite stores pricing advantage

Also games used to MSRP $10 cheaper on Steam when there was an argument that going digital was a major cost savings compared to physical products/packaging, shipping, and retailler cut. Eventually publishers stopped caring and made physical and digital prices the same while adding an assortment of DLC and subscriptions

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 158 points 3 days ago (41 children)

This seems like such a nothing case. Steam is optional. It's optional for publishers to use, it's optional for users to install. Steam provides many many benefits for even free games or games not purchased on the Steam store.

Any publisher can publish their game on their own site, on other stores, on physical media. Even though Steam is dominant, you can buy games somewhere else as easily as you can download and install Steam itself.

I hope this case gets thrown out.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You can also use steam as a distribution platform completely free of the 30% cut by selling steam keys through your own site. Steam specifically gives developers unlimited free steam keys and games no cut from the sale of said keys. And it's not even a work around, it is intentional.

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 171 points 3 days ago (40 children)

Steam singlehandedly stopped piracy overnight for me.

Developers were getting $0 from me before steam, and thousands of $$$ from me after steam.

The 30% cut is well worth it for developers, plus all the other services steam provides. Kids have no idea how buying, installing, modding, patching games used to be like.

You cant compare this to the apple app store

Name another platform that has gone 20 years without completely enshittifying itself.

We can start shitting on steam when they turn evil

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 109 points 3 days ago (2 children)

free market mfs when consumers choose the option that doesn't shit on them:

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