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[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah now I start to understand why people go mad over nvidias pricing I mean the 4090 costs like what 1500, 2000 bucks? Meanwhile the 6100 cheaper than the shipping cost y'all're getting ripped off —shitpost

[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I actually have to build a new computer (edit changed it from previous word used lol) ... The last time I had built mine was in 2013 with an Asus i7which lasted quite a while until the whole Windows 11....non compatibility.....

Now to look at socket type and see if my. Old casing can take it and yada yada ....

I don't want to go the laptop route since I still prefer desktop for gaming than laptops....

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Holy shit How do you build a CPU

[–] lime@feddit.nu 5 points 13 hours ago

a beach, a plasma torch, and a very steady hand

[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 1 points 11 hours ago

I look at everything that will be necessary for a new build since I already have a computer so... If I don't have to get a new case, great, if an adapter on my Fan can be fitted for the the new socket type... Great

[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Lol what was weird with what I said?

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

sorry I'm being a douche

"cpu" sometimes refers to the processor chip which goes on the motherboard

[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh man.... I'm so tired I didn't even see my mistake 😂 your not a douche, your just calling out a blunder on my part lol thanks! I corrected it.

But yeah.... I ma looking at the specials for motherboards and CPU and.... Wow it's going to br a pain to rebuild a computer.... Since I usually like doing it myself

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 6 hours ago

I had one built by a computer repair place when I was in college - they did great and it had a fun case with lights

These days I'm too far out of the loop to get good prices or anything so I bought a laptop from Acer, here is the link

They offered a payment plan, 3 payments over 3 months with 0% interest

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 1 points 12 hours ago

either on a breadboard or in cooperation with a silicon chip factory and risc-v authorities

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

60% or 60 percentage points ?

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

That post is older than Lemmy

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be the same thing with no other percentages in sight because we're subtracting from 100%?

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Intel used to have decent naming...

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Power consumption is part of the equation now too. You'll often see newer generation hardware that has comparable performance to a last gen model but is a lot more power efficient.

[–] eyeon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Or you'll see something equally efficient and equally performing at the same power levels..except you'll see newer gens or upgraded skus allowed to pull more power

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just don't rent one from NZXT.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw a video on Gamers Nexus about how shitty a company they are. Hopefully word spreads amongst gamers & builders that they're no good and they should be avoided.

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's the deal with them? Only NZXT component i've had is my current case, which has awful airflow (old model of H710 I think, bought 5 ish years ago).

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

Apparently they very recently got acquired or invested in and are probably looking to increase profits tenfold in under a year so the company can be dumped before it all crashes.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Apparently their PC rental program is a worse value than illegal loans that are likely mafia-backed.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are blindly renting things without doing numbers you have bigger issues.

Always read and do long term calculations

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Problem is that a lot of "influencers" advertise it to teens as an easy way to get a new computer.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 16 hours ago

I think that is more on the teens and there parents.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile the data i care about, efficiency, is not readily availlable. I'm not gonna put a 350 watt GPU in the 10 liter case if i can have the same power for 250 watt.
At least TomsHardware now includes efficiency in tests for newer cards.

[–] far_university190@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago

GamersNexus has start add efficiency score in frame / joule. Also have full writeup of video on website.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tell me about it. The numbers that I'm interested in - "decibels under full load", "temperature at full load" - might as well not exist. Will I be able to hear myself think when I'm using this component for work? Will this GPU cook all of my hard drives, or can it vent the heat out the back sufficiently?

[–] Zanz@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Temperature is meaningless unless you want oc headroom. A watt into your room is the same no matter the temp the part runs at.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 2 points 14 hours ago

That's not correct, I'm afraid.

Thermal expansion is proportional to temperature; it's quite significant for ye olde spinning rust hard drives but the mechanical stress affects all parts in a system. Especially for a gaming machine that's not run 24/7 - it will experience thermal cycling. Mechanical strength also decreases with increasing temperature, making it worse.

Second law of thermodynamics is that heat only moves spontaneously from hotter to colder. A 60° bath can melt more ice than a 90° cup of coffee - it contains more heat - but it can't raise the temperature of anything above 60°, which the coffee could. A 350W graphics card at 20° couldn't raise your room above that temperature, but a 350W graphics card at 90° could do so. (The "runs colder" card would presumably have big fans to move the heat away.)

[–] Fizz 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I wish this was data was more available. I got a GPU upgrade 6800xt and it's so loud. I can't enjoy sitting at my desk without hearing a loud whine and a bunch of other annoying noises. Its probably because the card is 2nd hand but still.

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Maybe not cuz I have first hand 7900xtx and if I load it up it whines horribly lol.

[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 days ago

Thousand times this. For actual builders that care about the nuance it all probably makes sense but then there is me over here looking at pre-builts wondering why the fuck are two seemingly identical machines have a $500 difference between them.

I'm spending so much time pouring through spec sheets to find "oh the non-z version discombobulator means this cheaper one is gonna be trash in three years when I can afford to upgrade to a 6megadong tri-actor unit".

I'm in this weird state of to cheap to buy a Mac and can't be arsed to build my own.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Just go here and check the charts for the kind of work you want the PC to do. If one looks promising you can check specific reviews on YouTube.

For gaming the absolute best cpu/gpu combo currently is the 9800x3d and a rtx 4090, if you don't have a budget.

Yes the part naming is confusing but it's intentional.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Yes the part naming is confusing but it's intentional

Yes, that's what people are upset about.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

It's funny that you wrote the wrong GPU name while agreeing that the naming is confusing.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Gamer's Nexus

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago
[–] arc@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I occasionally "refresh" my PC with new board, CPU etc. I never buy the top of the line stuff and quite honestly there is little reason to. Games are designed to play perfectly well on mid range computers even if you have to turn off some graphics option that enables some slight improvement in the image quality.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

And it sucks! Sorry, I mean it SUX.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago

For very broad definitions of “convention”

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