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    [–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

    Teams is bad until you have to use Amazon chime and work docs.

    [–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

    I know right! I had the unfortunate experience of using it for a while and I have no idea how Amazon employees manage to communicate at all. It was an utter mess and looked like it came out of the 2000s.

    [–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
    1. Fuck those things.
    2. The main problem with them is not just the software, which is awful, but that it means you're working at Amazon.
    [–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 1 points 54 minutes ago

    I'm lucky enough to be working with rather than for, but it does mean interacting with their crappy programs and work culture. Going back to using teams is a relief.

    [–] conc@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

    That sounds awful

    [–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago

    I think OneDrive is just fine.

    I primarily use it for my Windows PCs, I have it installed on my Macs. Rarely need anything in there from Linux, but it’s nice to be able to pop in from a browser and grab something.

    I work in an IT Support role for a lot of users, and I think that OneDrive is the ideal backup for the average Windows user / basic consumer. It covers the folders that most people care about, offers versioning of files, and even ensures that I’m not needed when they transition to a new device even if their previous device does not turn on anymore.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    This meme was just making the rounds on Lemmy like a week ago

    [–] conc@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

    If I haven't seen it, it's new to me!

    [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

    For IT purposes, i fuckin' love it. Forced sync of Desktop and Documents folders for users, all the email is server-side. no more bitching about data loss. "Did you use one drive like you said you would when you clicked "OK" to that user agreement?"

    [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Exactly. It's very useful in a managed environment. It's performance overheads suck though.Way too much CPU usage.

    But it should not be part of Windows, only office 365 or as an optional 3rd party service.

    Same story with icloud on Apple and Google Drive on Android.

    No free version of a paid cloud service should be included in any OS. It should require a separate opt-in sign up. Have we not learnt anything from the Microsoft antitrust cases.

    [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

    Absolutely. The average consumer device shouldn't have any kind of internet dependancies baked into the OS, IMO. It should always be installed/enabled separately. There's still vast swathes of the US that don't have reliable internet.

    [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

    In a professional context (e.g. work/office), O365 and related technologies make a lot of sense. It solves all kinds of real problems, especially for a remote/hybrid workforce. It's by no means the best answer for any one application, but it's a very comprehensive platform and gets the job done.

    For the home user? Constantly forcing OneDrive into everyone's field of view on OS upgrades is intrusive advertising for a thing nobody asked for.

    [–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    My favourite part is when you log into your work PC, and a bunch of things you deleted 6 months ago have re-appeared on your desktop.

    [–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

    That happened because you unlinked OneDrive 6 months ago, or it deauthenticated and was never signed back in. Without being connected, it never got the memo that those files were removed so it never deleted those things from there.

    The same thing would happen if you uninstalled any other program and then deleted the now local-only files, or if you restored from a 6 months old backup.

    [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago

    "Duplicate of _____"

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    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Dropbox would've accomplished the same shit without being half as shitty.

    [–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    In the US, Dropbox’s cost of entry is $120/$144 per year depending on whether or not you go month to month. The majority of users don’t need a 2TB storage plan.

    OneDrive starts at $20/$24 for 100GB, $70/$84 for a 1TB plan, or $100/$120 for a 6-user family plan that totals 6TB.

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    Ah. Well I guess it depends on how much storage you need. For my purposes, the 12 GB I got my free account up to has worked well. I just sent a bunch of referral links to friends and each time got a bump in storage space.

    [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 hours ago

    I'd normally agree, but keeping it tied to AD is nice, and data exfiltration is a major enough concern for my environment that third-party cloud storage is thoroughly blocked.

    [–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    OneDrive does exist on macOS.

    [–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    well, it seems good for hosting "games at a 100% discount" at least, a few sites use it for that purpose

    [–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 74 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] sntx@lemm.ee 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Was there any spyware/telemetry found in red star OS?

    I remember a good few years back finding a leaked image for it and having some fun with it ended up throwing it on an open Gdrive link, then a few years later someone leaked a more up to date version that tried to look like macOS.

    [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    The last information i found is from 2015 (the one that looks like MacOS). There are no direct backdoors on the installation medium, although it is trivial to deliver one with software updates since the repositories are under state control. What has been found is a mechanism that attached the hardware id of the pc to any file that is opened, allowing to trace through which hands a file has gone. there was also an "anti-virus" that is a censoring mechanism, deleting files with predefined content.

    [–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

    Wasn't there also a "kill-switch" that reported to the government when you tried to tinker with the OS too much or something?

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

    Wouldn’t you need to modify the filesystem type to associate this type of tracking data with a file?

    [–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago

    I guess Microsoft hates OneDrive too

    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

    You had me at Microsoft.

    [–] madjo@feddit.nl 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

    I found the one guy who likes OneDrive. He really advocated for its use during our last meeting with the others of the media team I'm in. I can't stand the tool, as it keeps demanding I pay the microsoft tax

    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    What were his arguments for it's "greatness"?

    [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Probably the fact that you can collaboratively work on the same documents as other users. Or that syncing files to local devices is pretty easy and straightforward. Sharing is also dead easy. From an IT perspective, file retention and versioning is a game changer. I just restored a computer that an angry user attempted to delete all files from when they had been fired because all the data was backed up to OneDrive. I think people just hate OneDrive because it's often advertised. I think very few people who actually make full use of it, actually hate it.

    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

    Fair, but most of these I can do with my Nextcloud.

    [–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

    Don't forget about SharePoint

    [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Ah yes, the memories of not being able to put stuff in my documents because "onedrive is out of space" which is when I figured out what onedrive was

    [–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    That doesn’t happen.

    You’re free to use your documents folder as much as you want, it’s still local to your disk / filesystem. Without available space in the cloud storage plan, those items won’t upload to the cloud and will have a red X as their status icon.

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    [–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    So what would be better alternatives? I do not plan to self-host.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

    Just throwing it out there, even if you're not running your own server or anything, if you happen to have two computers turned on at the same time occasionally, Syncthing is awesomely transparent and works VERY well. Crazy easy to set up too. (Like actually easy, not "network admin easy.")

    I personally run it on a little server at home now so it's always on, and there's a single "point of truth" where everything references the server, but you can have a number of devices that all simply ask each other what needs updating when they detect each other online. It can automatically retain versions, and that kind of thing. :)

    [–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 10 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

    You could e.g. subscribe to a fully managed Nextcloud.

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