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    Well, technically anywhere from 5 to 40, but I still have a nice chance to grow old before libreboot starts building. Also, still slower than dial-up.

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    [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

    What's Savannah again ?

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 85 points 2 weeks ago

    I'm imagining a 30 year old Pentium Pro server grinding away in a broom closet somewhere. It's next to the one still running the old Space Jam website.

    [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    8 kbps should be enough for anyone

    [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I was happy as shit if I had a 4KB connection,back in the day. Hell, my first modem was a 28,800 baud. IE, a theoretical maximum speed of 3.6KB.

    [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I had a 14.4 modem. I remember wanting a 33.6. Those were the days though. Simpler times.

    [–] tulliandar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Before I ever had a modem I’d go to a buddy’s house because his dad had a 300 baud acoustic coupler for work. I think the first modem I bought for myself 9600 baud

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    The speeds are listed in kbauds though.

    [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You know, I'm not sure if you're joking or not.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I’m not. kbps === kbauds.

    [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    They listed the speed in kilobits per second. kbps isn't short for kilo "baud"

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    What do you think a baud is if not a bit per second?

    [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    It's how fast a signal is capable of changing state per second.

    It's a switching speed. Not a transfer rate.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You started comparing kB/s to kbauds. Now you’ve started a dishonest argument (moving goal posts). Have a nice life.

    [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

    Lol. You're just too confused. I was comparing them, because a 28,000 baud modem happens to have a max transfer rate of 3.6 KB. I can't help it that you don't know what you're taking about.

    [–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Just keep your code under 8 kb. Honestly bloat if you can't do that /s

    [–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    It would still take 8 seconds to download.

    [–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
    [–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Well... The original meme is in kbps (kilobits per second or kilobaud). The quoted speeds for the tech seem to line up with kbps and not kB/s, so I think this is the intent.

    8 bits = 1 byte, so in this specific example it was very easy to convert 8 kbps to 1 kB/s to determine that it would take 8 seconds to download an 8 kB file.

    Maybe secret300 meant a 8 kilobit file, they did use lowercase 'b' afterall 🙂.

    [–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Guix user pains. The packages download at that speed.

    It's a tossup whether downloading Librewolf or building it will take longer

    [–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Yeah, one of the reasons I moved t440p back to nixos :/

    [–] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

    It's a bit of a problem that there's no serious contender to NixOS. Especially Guix is in a good position to become an alternative.

    But it will never happen, because of GNU. And before I continue, I want to make clear that this is not to shit on them.

    But realistically, only a fork could make it relevant. NixOS, despite its issues (documentation, flakes, whatever), has a massive mindshare: it's a huge repository with very up-to-date packages, a lot of modules, and devshells are just a very handy thing for developers. You often find flakes in random GitHub repositories for that reason. There are sponsored efforts around the distribution (like lanzaboote). There are (semi-)commercial entities set up around it (numtide, determinate systems, tweag...)

    The difference between NixOS and Guix is probably so large that no commercial provider would want to put in the required work to bring Guix up to speed, and GNU is committed to other values. As such, I think only a very big volunteer effort could make a difference.

    [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

    Once upon a time I mirrored Project Gutenberg. As this was a pain having only 64kbit over ISDN, I was expecting great things from attending a LAN party where we actually had Ethernet speed connection to the internet.

    When I started my mirroring script, though, it was not faster than at home. Turned out that the mirror host limited connections to clients in unknown networks to 64kbit.

    Luckily I found another mirror host that had no such limits.

    [–] neox_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Libreboot?! It's not on Savannah. But perhaps you meant GNU Boot

    [–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    They use grub and gnulib. Well, I could've also re-configured it to use only seabios but decided it'd be fun to play with grub as a payload.

    [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Try to use the Internet from UPC Slovakia. It's going very slowly.