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[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

That was not a subtle theme...

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Avatar is just recycled CGI Fern Gully anyway

[–] robinoberg@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago

It's a motif as old as time. Foreign invader getting Stockholm Syndrome with the natives. Another famous example is Dances With Wolves. That film called The Great Wall as well. Some versions of Robin Hood has it. Anthropologists call it Going Native, which is what Carlos Castañeda did.

But they're not all about economic expansionism

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 9 hours ago

I saw the film in a theater with someone who wanted to impress upon me that someone pointed out to her how alike it was to what happened to indigenous peoples in the Americas (someone else had pointed that out to her, so she assumed I wouldn't get it on my own). I was like, if you think that's a novel observation, you really need to be hit in the face with concepts to understand things. It couldn't have been more obvious.

But maybe that highlights how much some people just aren't observant or introspective or whatever else. It would explain a lot.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 31 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah man, we all understood that the first time around when it was called Fern Gully.

Like Avatar if you want but like.... it is not a deep piece of media with hard-to-discern messaging. Shit is pretty clear.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

One time I unmatched someone from a dating app because the second avatar movie was coming out and they said that it was weird of me to say that the alien people were supposed to represent Native Americans because "they're just blue aliens why would you compare them to real life?"

Apparently media literacy makes you a weirdo?

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 8 hours ago

Yes it definitely makes you weird. Turn the brain off and consume the media like a good little sheep (/s if it wasn't obvious)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Fucking Tarzan was fighting evil white exploiters of pristine Africa in books back in the early 1900s.

A good white saviour from the evil white people, because the indigenous can't do it for themselves. Just like in Ferngully and Avatar.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Are there even any indigenous people in Tarzan? I haven't read the book, but from the movie I only remember his gorilla buddy and the little elephant. I think Tarzan is more about rebelling against civilization in general, instead of colonization in specific (which James Cameron's Avatar is). It's very post-industrialization in that sense.

Edit: Whoops, just read the synopsis on Wikipedia. I don't think Tarzan is the white saviour you're looking for...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

Which Tarzan book did you read the synopsis for? Burroughs wrote 24 of them.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago

I can't decide if I should post the "wait, it's all the failures of capitalism?" or "wait, it's all systemic racism?" meme, cuz it's wait it's all both (always has been).

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It is also about settler colonialism. There are natural gas fields off the coast of Gaza.

[–] robinoberg@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago

Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

Explore, exploit, exterminate.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Satisfactory music starts playing

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 11 hours ago

Paved paradise, put up a parking lot.

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