Democrats don't deserve anymore support. We've got to get a party for the working class. It's just corporate whores in the GOP and DNC.
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Maybe use those arms for more than just finger-wagging.
Yeah fuck the Democrats. I'm not giving the DNC or any mainstream PACs any more money. It'll all go through AOC and Bernie from here on out. (Not that my meager contributions mean much to the DNC Corporate whores.)
I'll believe they are "up in arms" as soon as they actually do anything.
The progress wing should leave the party. Force the dems to come crawling or show their hands as sleeper Republicans
The frustration is real. There's a movement to create an American Labor Party. I think if it gets enough steam we might see some real change.
I'd be hopeful if it wasn't mathematically almost impossible for a third party. But as soon as it happens sign me up regardless.
The DNC is a right wing corpo puppet masquerading as opposition.
They're far more comfortable with a fascist as President than they would a leftist like AOC.
Stare at what their priorities are a month before Trump takes office, sabotaging their most leftwing members. Commuting the sentences of profiteer judges. Herp derp gotta keep moving right after all! (just an aside, I love the neoliberals defending Biden's corrupt pardons as "just senile/incompetent")
Reminder: the only leftist congresspeople are spoiler candidates. The DNC promotes solely on the basis of how well you prove you can be bought by large money donors, which tells you all you need to know about who's side they're on. The same side as the Fascists on economic policy, as they get the same checks from the same oligarchs.
I've voted blue for 20 years, with my nose held hoping for harm reduction. I phonebanked for Sanders in 2 campaigns. I already know it's all a sham. You can vote whoever you want as long as they're pro corpo capitalism. But in the 2028 primary, when I see the DNC yet again doing everything they can to kneecap a progressive to install a neoliberal, I'm walking away, as it's just another system of control. The illusion of choice.
If the people won't overcome their "free market" propaganda and vote against the shape and priorities of this sociopath owned economy literally legally conning and murdering us for tidy profits, we can't be saved, and there's nothing worth saving left.
And they wonder why people start hitting people over the head with hammers.
It's not just that he's 74...
It's not just that he got diagnosed with terminal throat cancer, and told voters the day after the recent election.
It's that it hasn't been two years since he last violated (the already barely existent) rules against Congress doing a little insider trading.
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/gerry-connolly-stocks/
Like, did anyone think when Pelosi was weighing in on the oversight committee, that the person she was backing wasnt corrupt and would actually hold anyone from either party accountable?
Pelosi didn't care just because she hates everyone under retirement age. It's because she needed to know the person in charge of the oversight committee had no reason to hold anyone accountable.
Probably more about her suspiciously making 66% returns on her stock investments than anything
That's what I mean, she's corrupt as fuck.
Everyone got hung up on Pelosi just "disliking" AOC, but this would have allowed AOC to investigate Pelosi and other corrupt Dems.
So Pelosi made sure a corrupt Dem got it. That way the status quo is maintained: Dems only go after R, and R only goes after Dems. But neither ever make anything stick.
AOC would try to go after everyone corrupt, and the Republicans would go with it if the target was a Dem.
We'd weed out corruption from the Dem party which would increase turnout, and likely retain the seats.
But it would be bad for Pelosi, and she'll always put herself over party or country
Just want to point out that most of the top traders are always Republicans but they're never talked about in this context and Pelosi sometimes doesn't even beat the S&P500.
Second worst is not acceptable.
She seems to beat it for the most part. There's a simulator that has a Pelosi ETF trading as "NANC":
https://simulator.tryshare.app/?tickers=NANC
Over the past 5 years, NANC has an annualized return of 15.2%, compared to 8.1% for SPY. I don't know if the simulator takes transaction costs into account or not, but I'd guess she still beats it on average. I would hope she does, given the legalized insider trading involved.
74? My brother in Quetzalcōātl, she's 84.
Connolly is 74
'74-'75
Ah, I thought they were referring to Pelosi. My bad.
DNC: "Look what you made me do"
why are the fucking boomers so resistant of letting go of power? pelosi is 84 years old, she belongs in a nursing house, not politics
They're like cats with claws stuck in something. They don't even understand that letting go is a thing they could do
As with most people in that position, they've been fucking over people for so long that they're terrified of someone turning the tables on them. Hence gathering ungodly amounts of wealth and insulating themselves from the world.
It's sad but true - and a very old story.
Just like, hey here's 100,000 no strings attached oh can you be at our vote on Thursday? - is a very old story.
rich old white guy: i have an idea - lets have a rich old white guy do it instead
[all vote yea]
:/
it’s fine I’ve got experience
A fat lot of good your fucking “experience” has done us lately, wouldn’t you say, Connolly, you ossified, cancer-ridden, insider-trading, neoliberal establishment fuck.
I take issue with using cancer-ridden as a derogatory term, but yeah, experience doesn't mean anything if you're working towards the wrong goals
Think if it as a moral cancer.
There is NO TIME to do something about the Democratic party better than NOW.
Nothing much going on, no major elections, let's just get ourselves in shape for 2028. Or 2032 of it takes that long, but DAMNIT, let's get started!
They want a leadership power struggle? They want to play games, like everything's ok, "This is fine?" Let's not. Instead of expressing disgust, wringing our hands, shaking our heads, let's start something new. RIGHT NOW.
Because even a year from now would be too late.
Jesus Christ, these people don't learn.
They’re paid not to
Exactly. This isn't a mistake or incompetence, it's the point.
It's what they're paid to do. War over social issue symptoms with their "opposition" to present a false choice to the rubes who believe they're "free," while protecting the completely captured economy exactly as it is... From the people suffering it.
Well... how about a third Party of Sanity?
Sounds good. . . who's running it?
Sorry. No. I did the math on this and I've determined that a vote for Sanity is just a vote for Trump.
You need to end FPTP voting first. So please call the republican congressperson in your gerrymandered district currently authoring the "Ban Liberals From Voting Act of 2025" and let them know you'd like to make it easier for him to lose. If we all work together, we can make it possible for a Libertarian to win a House Seat in 2036.
we can make it possible for a Libertarian to win a House Seat in 2036.
American Libertarianism is an anti-establishment ideology that's been captured and twisted to support the core principle of the establishment, private property rights. At this point it's nothing more than a sick joke.