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[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Gentle reminder that i2p exists where torrents can be downloaded anonymously.

https://lemmy.world/c/i2p

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I2p is great , definitely the future

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah except nobody fucking lets you join lol

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Join i2p? What do you mean?

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Private torrents is what I was talking about. Starting to wonder if I responded to the wrong comment need to review the thread now lol

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

so right, I can't believe how right you are

[–] figjam@midwest.social 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

First rule of usenet. Dont talk about usenet

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Good point, fixed

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Dude private torrent groups on Usenet are shutting their doors to outsiders everywhere and building motes lmao where have you been. If you don’t know someone really well it’s almost impossible to join one. The two I’m in say no to newbies constantly.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe -5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Your ignorance would be adorable if you expressed any interest in learning. As it stands, just sad.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Could you try explaining your experience instead of being an insufferable, patronizing ass? Or is that too much to ask?

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world -3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

You can’t be serious

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

Kinda inverts inverted the causality of Netflix starting their own production and other companies pulling their licences. Netflix started their own production to survive the licences getting pulled, which was inevitable as soon as Netflix looked profitable.

They didn't get greedy, they probably started out greedy, ran a good service to grab market share, then had to make moves to defend against the predictable greed of the incumbents.

It's greedy turtles all the way down

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anon: 2007
The music industry ca. 1981: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

So we left side b blank so you can help!

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also the book piracy that existed in universities through photocopying and sharing pages.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

This is making a comeback with scanning.

Amazon was the place to buy manuals(art,hobby, do it yourself etc.). Now authors have pulled their books from print and expecting people to sign a subscription on patreon. Now there are sharks overpricing any remaining physical print second hand by 2000%.

pirates have scanned these books and selling access to uploaded jpgs for a fraction of what the manual would have cost had it just stayed in print.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

2007 ? Everybody around me was pirating every single piece of media in 2000 and we were late to the party

[–] bilb@lem.monster 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Napster was a household name and made mp3 piracy mainstream in 1999!

[–] OopsOverbombing@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The golden days of the net 🥲

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People were pirating games over bbs in the 80s. I have a shoebox of 5.25" floppies for the commodore 64 with hand written labels.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Take that 3.5 floppy you got in the mail and break the tab so that you could read / write.

Doom and Wolf3d for my buddies. Rise of the Triad.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I really wish I was a consultant for these fucking jokers.

Back when Disney+ was just "Rumor has it Disney wants to launch their own Netflix-like streaming service.", I called this shit. I said "Well that's just going to cause this whole thing to fall apart, no one's going to juggle 50 different streaming services just to be able to find something to watch."

And I was fucking right.

The only ethical streaming service is Tubi as it doesn't charge relying on ads alone, and it's a neat little bonus that Tubi has actively aided in the restoration of lost media.

If it aint on Tubi, then I'm going to yo-ho-ho with a bottle of fuck you.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

just going to cause this whole thing to fall apart

Disney Plus generated $8.4 billion revenue in 2023, an 13% increase year-on-year.

lol

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't prove the data wrong, but I will say it's not particularly uncommon for businesses to move money around in an effort to make new product seem better or more profitable than it is. Tons of incentives to do so, little reason not to.

Also since you quote revenue not profit, they were still net unprofitable as of 2023 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/streaming-profit-report-netflix-disney-warners-paramount-nbcu-1235868631/

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

it's not particularly uncommon for businesses to move money around in an effort to make new product seem better or more profitable than it is.

Didn't Xbox do something like this? I heard they converted all remaining Xbox Live subscribers to Xbox Game Pass.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

Yes, but they also brought back piracy, eroded faith in the brand, and while Disney+ is making money.....

Disney's newer efforts are kinda showing it's not the powerhouse it used to be. With the only thing they really have going for them are the legacy media that they're holding hostage on a platform, they arbitrarily removes things from time to time for seemingly no reason (the Willow series for example, which makes very little sense since that was original to Disney+ to begin with and for some reason Buzz Lightyear of Star Command isn't on the platform despite all the other Toy Story media being present... and there are several episodes of The Simpsons that are just straight up memory-holed; most infamously the Michael Jackson episode)

If this trend continues, Disney will be left with people pirating the legacy media that people at home have shaky access to at best (Monthly fee for content that may be removed with no notice and for no reason), especially as prices soar and wages stay the same, and interest in newer project dwindling.

Or to be blunt, one of the most classic blunders: High short term profits at the cost of being unsustainable in the long term.

Sure it's easy to think of Disney as laughing its way to the bank, but.. think of it this way.

Disney's been king of the world, especially in animation (Which has been getting sidelined in favor of live-action. I guarantee if Mufasa was animated it'd be running neck and neck with Sonic 3 instead of lagging behind). They're a luxury limousine running fast on a road that has no other cars (because Disney bought those cars), and the tank's running out of gas. You won't know it's running on fumes until it comes to a complete stop, but at the speed it's going it will take awhile...

And the second it stops, a simple fuel service isn't going to get it running again. It will get running again, too many people need it to run. So they'll call a mechanic, and it will take to the streets once more.

Is Disney cooked? of course not, but they will see a return of their darkest days. A decade or two of the Disney brand no longer being that shining seal of quality people take it for.

I see it comparable to Nintendo's Wii-U days when the company was a joke with no 3rd Party support and consumers who weren't even sure what the Wii-U was even supposed to be. (Too many passed on it, believing it to be an overpriced gimmicky tablet add-on for the Wii... The launch title being NSMBU instead of something fans hadn't already seen before I think is a big part of the blame for that.)

Nintendo didn't wind up in bankruptcy, but they'd need to reinvent the wheel via the Switch, win back 3rd Party Support, and rekindle the faith of the fans, to get back to being a power house.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Don't forget another thing in common between Nintendo and Disney: lawsuits. And obsession with intellectual property. Not required to be against their own fans, but it is preferred.

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[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (8 children)

2007? I remember watching a DivX of The Matrix back in 99. Prior to that I remember watching south park episodes in the RealPlayer.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

I watched Key The Metal Idol in 56 kbps. Downloaded, of course, because trying to stream using RealPlayer never fucking worked. I'm pretty sure I could fire up a server and client over my home network, to-day, and it'd still pause with "Buffering..." twice per minute.

Anyway, I'm discussing video on Game Boy in another thread, and dial-up quality video was still ridiculous.

[–] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those RealPlayer Southpark episodes were 15mb and had 8 pixels

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

South Park's graphics were so bad back then that probably almost sufficed.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Exactly this and more.

I'm not even pirating because it's cheaper, or easier. I have near 100TB in storage, and it takes hours per week to search material, have it downloaded, checked, etc. I just am done with the marketing, the branding, the advertising, the bullshit rules. I just want to watch what I want to watch and media companies made this impossible so I'm forced to sail the high seas

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[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago

Netflix entered into the already existing sphere of greed based commodification / exploitation that legacy media created decades ago. these legacy media conglomerates (owned circularly by the same big players in wall street black rock, vangaurd, state street et all.) dominate and control multiple industries and now Netflix is just part of that same ecosystem amassing wealth for their own self centered agenda without much, if any oversight at all. Theres just few greedy old cigar smoking men or rather boardrooms lead by these same men controling a majority of the world. Blackrock, blackston, state street and vanguard circularly own about 20% of disney and they own around the same percentage of netflix as well. Nevermind all the other media outlets they own large shareholding positions of. Greed is not the accidental result its the primary objective

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Netflix didn't get greedy (well not in that way). The movie companies wanted to make their own platform, which would have left Netflix with nothing. So they had to become their own production company. They said "we have to become a production company faster than production companies become streaming companies".

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

I feel like people are ignoring that Netflix was bleeding money during their "golden age". They only switched to being profitable a couple years back. A lot of times what people describe as enshittification is just unprofitable companies having to come up with an actual business model as venture capital dries up.

Also, merry Christmas:)

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