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New York judge Juan Merchan denied Donald Trump's request to delay his sentencing on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, set for January 10, 2025, just 10 days before his inauguration.

Trump argued for a delay based on pending immunity appeals, but the court rejected the claim, citing repetitive arguments and delays caused by Trump himself.

Prosecutors noted the timing avoids potential legal complications during his presidency.

The judge plans to sentence Trump to an unconditional discharge, leaving him a convicted felon without further punishment.

The case involves hush money payments from 2016.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 196 points 1 day ago (3 children)

'judge refuses to delay slap on wrist'

fucking waste of everyones time. too rich to punish... its the american way

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If he pronounces no sentence except for sticking the felon branding, then it isn't even a slap on the wrist. It doesn't affect him in any way whatsoever, even after his term is over.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Well, he can't legally vote in many states ... so there's that at least.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like McDonald's has tougher job requirements than our highest position.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tougher job requirements and easier to punish you when you fuck up. Hell, you don’t even have to fuck up that bad and this idiot’s about to tank the entire country even worse and lose nothing.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Hey, you dropped this:

,again

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Except he can in Florida where he lives and where voting rights are restored upon fulfilling all terms of your sentence... so nothing.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not even a slap on the wrist, they're just closing out the trial and letting him walk.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

“Yeah they found you guilty, but don’t worry, we’re not gonna do anything”

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, the moment he postponed July sentencing it was clear that the whole thing was a mockery of our judicial system.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Guess which of these sentences aren't in the article.

"The current schedule is entirely a function of defendant’s repeated requests to adjourn"

"Merchan said in his ruling Friday that he did not plan to jail Trump and that he was likely to sentence him to an unconditional discharge, meaning he would remain a convicted felon but would have no other punishment"

"We are not to blame for flushing democracy down a shit riddled toilet"

How the fuck can we ever take our courts seriously again?

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There is some twisted logic to this. Your'e right, the system is broken, but this decision potentially avoids the constitutional crisis of whether a president can pardon themself. It may also make an appeal less likely. In short, it may be the best way to make the conviction stick. Now, what good is a conviction if there's no punishment? The only thing I can think of that would have any impact on Trump is civil liability stemming from a criminal conviction.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Without punishment or rehabilitation, it doesn't matter like you said. It's the most in our faces it could possibly get, different rules apply. I forgot where I read or heard it, and it'll be paraphrased:

The Constitution is just a piece of paper. It doesn't mean a fucking thing if people do not back up it's intent. And the people who are supposed to be are willingly neglecting their duty/oath to do so.

We were already an oligarchy in a trenchcoat pretending to be a democracy, we're well beyond that now. Shit will get grim.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I wish I could commit felonies with impunity too.

Although, come to think of it, I don't really want to commit felonies, because I'm not a criminal.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I admit I do get away with committing a lot of felonies.

Well, one specific felony a lot of times.

Glad I was able to go to a state where that felony is legal to purchase before the big snowstorm hit.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How much weed can one man smoke?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Is that a challenge?

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn't mind robbing a bank., I'll just keep a 10% finders fee and return the rest to the people it was stolen from.

(Okay, it really depends on the bank you rob and how you rob it. looting nazis acounts from UBS? Oh yeah, there's oodles there.)

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Have you tried? Maybe you're immune to and you just don't know.

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[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Itd be nice if he got to sentencing, said "PSYCHE! JAIL FOR YOU! FOUR YEARS! NO PAROLE!" and then had some cuffs slapped on him and dragged him directly to prison. It's not going to happen, but it'd be nice.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Rikers Island becoming the new seat of the American government wasn't something I had on my bingo card

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[–] Emberleaf@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You're all missing the main point here: If you live a clean life, stay true to your faith, commit 34 felonies and be a sexual predator, you too could grow up to be the next president of the USA!!

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“Sentencing”

Right.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’ve already said there will be no punishment, so why does this even matte? It’s almost like the news wants us to be angry.

I wonder why that is….

[–] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago

Are you not angry?

[–] natecox@programming.dev 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I still don’t understand how a convicted felon loses the right to vote for president but can still be eligible to run for that office.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Simple: the Founding Fathers never envisaged that a convicted felon would ever have the balls to run for president, much less that anybody would be stupid enough to vote for one, because it's fucking insane.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Or that, in true democratic fashion, they belived that the populace knows best. Allowing it or remaining silent could have been intentional. When forming a new government to escape from corruption, you wouldn't want to create a situation that would outright exclude anyone that the corrupt government labels a felon.

They could never have imagined such vast distribution of misinformation and all three branches being so thouroughly compromised.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I doubt very much that the Founding Fathers had any illusion about the judgment capacity of the populace. If they had, the electoral college wouldn't exist.

But they did believe that letting the citizens decide, however bad the decision, was the least worst option. And - more relevant to the Trump problem - I'm convinced they believed there was a level of stupidity and lack of morals below which even the most uneducated, most foolish citizenry could never stoop. That's why didn't put guardrails against the unthinkable.

Of course, Trump and the magards proved them wrong: there is no bottom rung on that particular ladder.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Turns out all you need is racism, stupidity, and a massive propaganda machine. I'd like to thank the 150 million idiots who made this possible. I'll be thinking of you all when the 2nd Great Depression pops off with some sprinkles of pandemic 2.0 on top.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

Because if felons were unable to be elected the Republicans would try to pre-emptively jail their opponent in every single election. It's one of few checks against corruption that I believe is still working properly.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You wouldn't really want being a felon to prevent someone from running for president, because if they couldn't there'd be a significant incentive to weaponize the DOJ against political rivals.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sir, this is Lemmy.world. We only do emotional outbursts against republicans and capitalism here. Not rational thought! Please take that somewhere else. /s

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lock him up before he takes office

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

lol, good one

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Clown country

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Why does Trump even give a shit at this point?

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He always wants to come out on top even if it doesn't matter. He can't help it: It's pathological in people who seek power.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

In other words, you don’t have to be an ax-wielding murderer to possess some of the classic psychopathic traits: lack of remorse and empathy, a sense of grandiosity, superficial charm, conning and manipulative behavior and refusal to take responsibility for one’s actions.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/research-suggests-politicians-are-more-likely-to-be-psychopaths-11364143/

Trump fits the description of a psychopath pretty well.

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