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[–] Leah96xxx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 hours ago

I've seen at least 1 website that actually had critical components like parts of the navigation classed as ads, so they had to almost force you to disable it to just use their site.

Imo, if you design your website in such a way where critical basic functionality is classed as ads, then you've built your website wrong. Basic functionality should not be capable of being classed as an ad.

[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago

when I see this, I leave.

[–] perniciousanteater@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I leave uBlock off by default and only turn it on for abusive sites, but I also use Vivaldi with tracker blocking enabled so I still get these popups.

It usually ends with me blocking all ads in order to block the popup asking me not to block ads.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

uBlock stays on for everyone but Tubi in my house

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Why turn on the racing mode? Everyone knows that you have to use the "packwards" gear.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago

I have adblocker solely set up to block Youtube ads.

They broke the implicit contract of "Don't make ads too intrusive and I won't go out of my way to block your revenue". THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 60 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I’m sorry but advertisements are too often a vehicle for scams and malware. It’s not merely a preference. They pose a very real danger due to a lack of enforcement of good advertising policies and ethics.

[–] don@lemm.ee 29 points 21 hours ago

I’m sorry but advertisements

You have nothing to be sorry about when it comes to ads, except having to deal with ads. Fuck ads.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Report any scam ads. Ads online have to follow the same legal requirements as in other media.

https://www.asa.org.uk/news/scam-ads-online-2023-update-on-our-scam-ad-alert-system.html

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Tell the phone companies that

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Just report any ads that break the law.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If you're seeing these, then you need to change your settings in Ublock Origin to enable more filters. Anti-adblock killer is the filter you want, I believe.

[–] Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Also to add to this comment: as a general reminder to those not in the know, Filterlists exists. It contains useful different filterlists for different use cases, for many adblocking software (but of course Ublock origin is the best).

https://filterlists.com/

[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 14 points 20 hours ago

"Turn off your adblocker so we can make your day pop"

No thanks i dont want popup ads

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

If they really wanted me to whitelist them in my adblocker, they'd make the ads less onerous.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If I ever implant myself with a chip for brain augmentation is going to be an adblock that acts directly on my neocortex. The ultimate block.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 13 hours ago

Nah you also gotta make sure your browser is safe. Don't want to crypto mine for some libertarians 🤢.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've never seen this. Just checked ZDNet's website and it didn't show anything about my ad blocker.

I block ads because they are such a distraction that I can't read, and because auctioning off arbitrary javascript to the highest bidder is just asking to be hacked. If ads were not animated, and had no external or obfuscated javascript, I might not block them.

But as is, I'd rather close the tab than enable ads.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

It might have to do with the aggressiveness that I block ADs, I have ad blocking at the device and network levels. Since I also have a way to over-powered pfSense server I pretty much don't care about all those giant dnsbl lists that have the "Performance hit warning" lmao

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 11 points 21 hours ago

Usually paper companies trying to play electric games

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

If it's a site I use regularly, I'll disable ad blocker, especially news. It'd be childish demand people provide me their time, labour and effort for free, especially when the ads cost me nothing.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I demand control over my computing on my hardware. After I casually request media do not feel entitled to run anti-features without my permission.

I do think that hard effort to create works should be rewarded but I do believe ads have a cost - and it's too damn high.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How do you reward the work you encounter online?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

I buy merchandise from video creators, do non-annual donations (1 is annual) and assume commission for affiliate links can happen in the background when I buy stuff.

I admit I mostly give back to bigger players (e.g. my OS creator), and less so to those who are just starting off that don't see as much.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I've tried that before, was I rewarded with peaceful well placed ADs? Hell no, I was inundated with full page auto-playing monstrosities so fuck that.

Maybe if it's a small time website I'll just pay with donations or a subscription, but fuck these big time conglomerate owned websites

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Have you subscribed or paid for many? If so, thank you! But sadly, most of us don't.

I'm not talking big conglomerates, I'm talking about independent journalism or folks who are working to build something meaningful or beneficial to me, like webcomics or fantasy hockey.

Since people started getting news online for free, quality independent journalism has plummeted and we've been left with mostly corpo media with a few indies hanging on or getting absorbed into corpo. I think it's a tragedy which adblockers have accelerated.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't demand anything, but I'm not responsible for making sure anyone else makes money. Sell it, give it away, or don't. Don't beg me to allow third parties to infect my devices just because they paid you to ask me.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

How do you expect the websites you use to exist if everyone ad blocks them?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Lot's of websites exist. How did they do it before invasive ads and tracking?

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Back in the day, before ad blockers general unobtrusive ads generated more revenue per site visit. As ad blockers become popular, the value of those same ads were worth less.

So, to answer your question, they were able to pay the bills with discreet ads which we decided were too annoying, leading to the current spiral of decline.

[–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I can appreciate your viewpoint, but I disagree. If I can't use my adblocker on your site, I don't need your site.

There are no acceptable ads and there haven't been for a very long time. Plus, I've been blocking ads for so long I can't even remember an internet that has them. Probably part of the reason why I refuse any kind of ads.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So why should anyone make a website for you to visit?

Donations etc haven't been particularly effective. Should only giant corpo media exist? Should online news enter into sketchy deals with whomever?

[–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

No not at all. But the ads on the internet are actively malicious. They're misleading at best and actually dangerous at worst. I refuse to support that.

I really am sorry for the smaller sites that need the ads to run. But I won't help you if the ads don't change.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So again, how should small websites exist then?

Donations and subscriptions almost never work unless you are already a well trafficked website so I'm curious what your solution is...

[–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have one. That's part of the problem. The ads system needs to be fundamentally changed. But I'm still not going to expose myself and my devices to malicious ads and malware for the sake of your small site. It's not worth the risk for me personally.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it makes sense and I don't blame you.

IIt's one of those tragic game theory problems, like the prisonwr's dilemma, climate change or anything else where we all suffer because it's in no one's self interest to do the socially beneficial thing.

Yeah. It really is sad, but I'm not going to do something that is directly negatively impacting me just to keep up a site run by someone I don't even know.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

Yup. Everyone wants everything free but simultaneously want a high standard of wages for everyone except whomever is providing them a service.

Folks dress it up in whatever nonsensical rationale they'd like but really, I think we're just selfish.

[–] don@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I tried that for a while, then those sites abused that privilege with horrid obnoxious ads so I decided to nuke any ads anywhere.

I’m certainly glad that your tolerance to ads is such that you’re willing to endure them for whatever media it is that you consume, and encourage you to disable your adblockers entirely (given that ads really don’t cost you personally anything), but as for me and mine, we will block ads with a near religious fervor.

Cheers!

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Honestly, I don't use many random websites frequently, the ones I do tend to be pretty non intrusive in terms of ads (cbc, dobberhockey etc) so it might just be lucky on my part.

I dunno, I just think it's a race to the bottom. If everyone ad blocks then sites either don't exist, have to get more intrusive for the small sliver who doesn't ad block or sketchy partnerships.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

I do feel guilty sometimes... Then I continue.

Just like I do when I watch the porn the adblocker's help me watch...

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Using the "bypass paywalls clean" extension gets rid of most of it. I'm using Firefox.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Those messages do make me feel bad, but not bad enough to turn my ad blocker off.

I'm technically capable of blocking ads but that doesn't mean that I am also morally entitled to access content provided to me on the condition that I will see the ads. I suppose the fact that these websites only ask me to disable my ad blocker rather than refusing me access entirely implies that they give consent for me to keep using the ad blocker, but would I really stop using it if they did refuse access but I could bypass that restriction?

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 3 points 21 hours ago

I imagine they're targeted at the relatively technically inept majority.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 2 points 20 hours ago

Interrobang, eh? So classy.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

give us money!

Dude, I don't even know you. I'll never be back here again.