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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"worked in media at Fox" the TV Cabinet expands! Yikes.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

It's all just propaganda. Media people will be helpful in that endeavor.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Looks like I'm stuck with nord and their shitass torrent support lmao

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 3 points 31 minutes ago

How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 hour ago

🤦 Can we get this in actual text or maybe a cool link to the actual content for those of us who need it for accessibility & the rest of us who don't like trying to read pixelated garbage? Screenshots of text are such a scourge. 😭

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 minutes ago

Maybe he hit his head or has been replaced by bizarro Andy yen. In any case I can't believe he would do this to his own company. I started to give him the benefit of the doubt until he updated his statement saying that JD Vance cares about privacy and antitrust... I was like bro okay in done.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

Well thats a fuckin shame.

Good to know. Bye Proton.

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 39 points 3 hours ago

Well I no longer will be recommending proton to people. Can't trust anyone this stupid with privacy.

[–] GreenSofaBed@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

I use Proton mail, any recommendations for alternatives?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

If encryption is a must, then use Tuta. German company, privacy focused, open source all around, no surveillance, free tier with encryption available, encrypted calendars, accessible paid subscriptions with actually useful services.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Posteo

Keep a proton for situations where you can actually use the encryption. Most of the time the encryption is as useless as a VPN.

Also keep in mind all it is is pgp with a directory lookup. I think proton made their pgp directory lookup more open in the last few years, so it may not have any real benefits.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

PGP or other PKI.

Don't trust people you've never met to give a shit about you

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This wouldn't have anything to do with US internet restrictions would it? Like how multiple states place age verification on porn sites? Like how more restrictions would pop up in a MAGA admin to keep it "safe".

That wouldn't benefit Proton at all now would it? They don't serve a product that would circumvent those restrictions right? A product they sell?

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If you just want to watch porn, free protonvpn is enough.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

The privacy vulnerability in a VPN service is the VPN provider. There have always been suspicions that some of these companies are involved with state agencies and you've got Proton's CEO kissing the fascist ring, figure it out.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 42 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Just canceled my subscription and let them know in the comments it was because of this.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 3 points 32 minutes ago

I did the same. Also mailed them asking to cancel my account and refunding me the remaing balance.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's a shame. As soon as my current VPN ran out, I was going to give them some money. I guess he should have kept his MAGA thoughts to himself.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 hours ago

Same, especially because I can't get on Pornhub without one anymore!

Definitely no conflict of interest from this chode.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago
[–] glitchead@programming.dev 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

ivpn and Tutanota for email/calendar/contacts. And honestly, if you're comfortable with self hosting your own stuff, Nextcloud can manage your files, calendar, contacts and all kinds of other stuff.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I wouldn't trust tuta necessarily..not that they are bad, just that I think their account retention is weaksauce.

[–] atmur@lemmy.world 76 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I can deal with Andy Yen being a dumbass in his own time, but the official Proton reddit account doubling down on this shit is over the line for me.

I literally just renewed for 2 years a couple days ago. I will be looking for alternatives and hopefully I can get a partial refund or something.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 39 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Was about to pay for proton. Not now

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] atmur@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Unfortunately I made the mistake of really digging myself into the Proton ecosystem.

My current plan is:

VPN -> Mullvad

Mail -> Tuta

Pass -> Bitwarden (not sure if I want to host yet)

Drive -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)

Calendar -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)

Standard Notes -> Memos (Self-Hosted) (already done)

Simple Login -> no fucking clue, I am dreading migrating these.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Do you happen to know any alternatives for their email? Some security guy on YouTube was talking about how their email aliasing is better because if you lose a single email/password combo, you're not subject to any other breaches.

I mean I already use a password manager since I adopted KeePass like 15 years ago and use Bitwarden now, but I still like that concept.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 hours ago

Posteo or tuta or fastmail.

Depends on if anyone you message uses proton. If they do, you can always get their pgp key and save it to thunderbird. If nobody you know uses proton, there is no benefit to their service over the above.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago

I have heard Tuta is good.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 71 points 5 hours ago

Mentioning that Democrats are trash on dealing with corporations is just fine. Good, even.

Lying through your god damn teeth that Republicans are going to do anything other than lie to gain more leverage for their jihad to fuck over their fellow man is delusional at best.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck. I was procrastinating on buying into their VPN and drive service to de-googlify. Looks like that's off the menu and I am deleting all my burner accounts now. Fucking bruh.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Mullvad is better and cheaper VPN

Sync, icedrive, filenio, etc are fine storage options

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah, it was more convenient to have a "all under one roof" approach with email and stuff too, which is why i wanted to switch... But ain't gonna touch that dumpster fire for sure.

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