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All I hear about is "boomers" this, "Millennials" that, "Gen Z" that, etc.

Why no one talk about Gen X? What happened to them? They just vanished like in Infinity War? Or are we mistaken Gen Z by Boomers?

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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 20 points 6 days ago (4 children)

A couple of factors: Back in olden times, before Douglas Coupland applied the Generation X moniker in 1991, they used to talk about the Baby Bust generation. The Baby Boom was when all of the GIs got back from the war and all started getting jiggy at the same time. Then, the birth rate dropped significantly. In my elementary school, we had combined grades 2/3, and grades 4/5, because there weren't enough kids enrolled for full classrooms otherwise.

Also, the Baby Boom generation is defined as 1946 to 1964, which is 19 years, compared to the 16 years of what we call Generation X now, from 1965 to 1980.

Granted, is not a huge difference—71 million Boomers and 73 million Millennials vs. 64 million Gen X—but there's fewer of us. But also, the name and the generational categories are pretty recent developments. When Coupland's book came out, I was too young to be Gen X, the people he was writing about were adults out into world. I wasn't part of the classic Gen X disaffected-slacker culture, and its touchstones don't really resonate with me. It wasn't until years later that the definition of Generation X definitively included me. That's why you'll often see a lot of younger Gen X identify with the Xennial label, because we have a lot more in common with "elder Millennials," which makes the whole cohort less cohesive.

It's almost like the generational cutoff years are arbitrary, and that society changes continuously, and not in discrete jumps. It's almost like, too, that something unspeakably neo-liberal happened in 1980, and the real division is between the people who came of age before they pulled up the ladders to prosperity behind themselves (Boomers and older Gen X) and the people who came of age after (Xennials, Millennials, and so on). Nevermind, sorry, that's just some anti-capitalist hogwash. /s

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's almost like, too, that something unspeakably neo-liberal happened in 1980

I really hope Reagan is burning in hell 🔥🔥

[–] fmtx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago

Reagan is in hell waiting for heaven to trickle down.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

In the UK we’re more properly known as “Thatcher’s Children”, which gives a better idea of how disenfranchised we were growing up in the 80s.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The breaks are subjective, irregular, determined by consensus. Generally they're determined by significant societal events and their impact on people based on where they are in life.

Indeed, and I realized in the process of writing that comment that the famous graphs showing the growth of productivity vs. the growth of real wages explain a whole lot more about people's experiences than the consensus generational divisions.

[–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I thought millennials started at '82?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think I used to hear that, too, but I searched when writing the comment and found the consensus is now 1981. But then, people I know who were born in 1979 have so much more in common with elder Millennials than Generation X people born in the 1960's. That's why I'm skeptical of the whole generations concept. I mean, without looking up her birth date, is Kamala Harris a Boomer, or GenX?

[–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah I'm an older millennial and there are things I don't have in common with younger ones.

Kamala just slips in as a boomer technically, by like a year or something.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Gen X here, we're labeled the invisible generation for a reason.

That said I don't really give enough fuks to be involved, the real fight is inequality, not age.

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

We're still here.

Generation discourse honestly panders to the lowest common denominator intellect. People who constantly talk about boomers or millennials are usually pretty dumb.

The reason you don't hear much about Gen X is "we" didn't cause anything culturally significant in an enduring when "we" were in our 20s.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee -2 points 6 days ago

They're too small a cohort to matter, and seemed to follow boomers almost exactly with their ideology

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 92 points 1 week ago (10 children)

were the hidden generation, hiding in plain sight between 2 larger messes.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 week ago

the middle child generation.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

A lot of gen x got theirs. College was paid for and was cheap, lots of opportunities while they were young, got a house, a family and are just living. They will get a fair inheritance if their parents die on time, but they are also the first to see that huge nest egg disappear to the current healthcare system.

Their vote never counted. Too many boomers.

They were the first to figure out their parents had it incredibly easy, although it took them a long time. Sometimes they didn’t see it until their own kids struggled with costs and employment.

A lot are conservative but probably because they have assets and don’t like social welfare taking from them, even though their parents set it up for them to lose.

They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

I'm GenX. If you ask my group of friends "who here has built their own PC from components?" every hand is going to go up. Including the teacher, the administrator and the financier.

Ask a group of Millennials who knows what the command line is for and see what reaction you get.

GenX is the generation that does tech support for its parents and its children.

[–] Wojwo@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kind of... It's really that weird bridge period between the two generations. 1980 seems to be the sweet spot. The further your birth year is from it, in either direction, the less tech savvy they seem to be.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

We built the tech. I was there, three decades ago.

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[–] Quicky@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

Yeah, this is nonsense. Gen X were the generation that had to adapt to emerging technology in the workplace, when that technology itself wasn’t designed with user-friendliness at its core, and usually without an education that prioritised that. They worked with obscure hardware and obtuse software. They then continued to adapt as the Internet became prevalent and software within offices evolved. They saw the most change, and remain in the workforce.

As time has gone on, technology has simplified for the user. As such, Gen X are absolutely the generation that taught their parents how to solve their IT issues, and the ones that continue to teach their children, with Xennials being the peak of that curve.

Anecdotally, my teenage kids fly around an iPhone, but still think a computer is the fucking monitor.

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[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I disagree that they aren't as tech savvy as Millennials. I would say on average its younger GenX and older Millennials that have the highest tech skills, with GenX probably ahead. That's referring to percentage, not total numbers.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Boomers" has been misappropriated by younger generations to mean anything from older people they disagree with, older people they feel have undue privileges they don't have, or older people who were born before the internet became widespread.

The scapegoating mostly points at gen-X'ers though, not true boomers. The boomers are hitting the retirement homes at this point.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Boomers are generally tech illiterate, gen-x grew up with consoles, the commodore 64 and then the web and the mobile era then smartphones and withspread internet and so on and on. We were there when things started.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Elon Musk & Sergei Brin are Gen X, but Bezos, Gates, Tim Berners-Lee, Steve Wozniak, and most of the people who built the technology GenX grew up with are Boomers. Zuck is a Millenial, but just barely. You could make a decent start of life as GenX knowing nothing about the technology, but they were still young enough to learn new developments easily.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

We took the brunt of everything the Boomers could throw at us. You're welcome. Its your turn now, we're tired.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's the working class vs the 1%, not generation vs generation

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

yeah, the generation blame game is getting kinda old

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ronald Reagan happened to GenX.

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We're just chilling watching the show...

I sit at the tail end of it, or as I've seen it described 'xenials', wishing things would start to make sense again one day.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

I think genX most keeps their mouth shut about the generation wars because they were least touched by propaganga about it. Boomers were primed from the start with bullshit about the specialness of their generation. And it wasn't until genx was old enough to be over it, that the divisive cross-generation blaming got into full swing.

[–] dropcase@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

1977 here, we had to be raised by the boomers alone - with no Internet, mobile phones, and left outside all summer until it was dark (which wasn't that bad mostly).

What we were sold on growing up and what actually happened when we became adults was very different.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You realize that that comic is a pretty strong indictment of gen X though, yes?

It's not noble or otherwise admirable to sit down and eat that popcorn.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

We’re still being forgotten.

The boomers held on to power for such a long time that X never really got a generational chance to change things or sit in the driver’s seat. They were left waiting in the wings for their turn. The millennials were pretty pissed off for a lot of reasons and made a lot of noise, so they overshadowed X, and they’ve been maneuvering for their opportunities in the driver’s seat.

So basically X got mostly left out. Doesn’t mean we couldn’t fuck things up, though. We were the biggest trump voters by generation.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah we are here, just staying out of the drama I guess. Busy working. My guess is we aren't enough of a market - not the desirable-to-marketers 18-30 age group, and not a huge group with money like the boomers. So we are not targeted as much.

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[–] win95@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Love y'all, but on bluesky gen X has been behaving like boomers more and more often. Maybe it has to do with hitting a certain age and becoming "get of my lawn"?

[–] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The younger people call them boomers. Hell, gen Z and gen alpha call millenials boomers. Everyone who is "old" is a boomer now.

The older people only seem to be talking about millenials and younger, usually in the form of rage bait internet articles.

The concept of generations is completely arbitrary. They used to be named after important changes in the age distribution of western populations, but after the boomers they just became "the next one" because nothing really happened. Older gen X behaves the same as younger boomers, and millenials range from "owns a house, has four kids, are starting to plan their retirement" to "just finished their education", and I haven't yet found a reason why gen alpha and gen z differ at all (at least the millenials could be tied to 9/11?).

Now, nobody worth our time will take any of it seriously.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Musk is Gen X. Ron DeSantis is Gen X. Josh Hawley is Gen X. Paul Ryan, Gen X, claimed Rage Against the Machine was a favorite band despite being a fucking Republican.

Sounds to me like they're pretty loud and fucking shit up just as bad as the Boomers, no offense.

I don't have good memories of Gen X, just memories as assholes older than me who judged everyone based on what music they listened to and were absolutely assholes if your music wasn't cool enough.

Am I shocked most of them grew up to be conservative fuckholes? No, no I am not.

Anyway they mostly just get lumped in with Boomers, but Musk is Gen X and I think he's sadly pretty representative of it.

Over half of men (52%) aged 45+ voted for Trump and 44 is the youngest Gen X.

He's the one who likes all our pretty songs

And he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun

But he knows not what it means

Knows not what it means, and I say

He's the one who likes all our pretty songs

And he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun

But he knows not what it means, knows not what it means, and I say, "Yeah"

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don’t have good memories of Gen X, just memories as assholes older than me who judged everyone based on what music they listened to and were absolutely assholes if your music wasn’t cool enough.

And you base your opinion of an entire generation on that?

There are good people and bad people in all generations alike. One day you too will be older, and you'll be at the receiving end of undeserved criticism for things you've never said or done because some young dude met someone else the same age as you they didn't like.

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

"The forgotten generation" strikes again!

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We all went for a bike-ride, and when we got home just played some Atari.

Still playing Atari...

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe they're just lying low so nobody will blame everything on them.

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[–] mwproductions@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

You could call them The Silent Generation.

...

No, wait...

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Generational Theory refers to them as a "Nomad" generation, analagous to the more literally named "Lost Generation" one sacculum prior.

Generational theory is not scientific, but the patterns it identifies are certainly interesting. It's held up over the last 30 years, and seems to be continuing.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 1 week ago

X as a population is a birth low like the silent generation and since both are adjacent to the baby boom, which is one of the largest generations, their relative pull during their time is muted. basically the silent generation was sorta crowded out by the large incoming one and Xers were to small to effect the new crowd size much. Then also millenials are technically a boom but really just a drop in the bucket compared to the baby boom before. They are the little peak in the early 90's in this graph where the orange is the boom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boom#/media/File:US_Birth_Rates.svg . Combined with this is that X was known as the slackers and they were not big joiners. Don't get me wrong im in the gen and I know plenty of folks that do things in their lives like reduce, reuse, recycle but not many part of an org or something around it (not all good things btw of course but im giving the perspective of my crowd). It still sorta cracks me up as I live near my high school and they put all the accomplishments along the fence and it starts in like the 60's. Newer ones are in the school but as new ones come in the old ones are hung on the outside fence. Well there is this big gap in the 80's. literally stuff into the late 70's and then suddenly stuff from the early 90's. No club or sport or anything got any significant win or award or whatevr in the 80's.

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