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I can't blame the customer here. Ya, that's the USB in the Ethernet port.

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[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 142 points 2 years ago

I read about this. They make the printer WITH a perfectly good USB port and then stick a "no USB" label over it and attempt to force you to use their wireless setup.

https://post.lurk.org/@yaxu/110833261398955782 for more.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 62 points 2 years ago

trying to force the app, force the networking.. get the printer online and sending data back, trick an account signup too.. because, hey. user data nom nom nom.

and of course, also trick you into enabling automatic firmware updates--the first of which will be waiting for you and ramps-up blocking of third-party consumables.

[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Don’t forget all the ads to buy their ink every month and other bullshit

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

When I put the old HP printer on the network, I put it into a "Restricted Internet Access" group on the router. Indended for limiting the kids' internet access times, but you can set it to locked perpetually.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

A lot of HP consumer printers will stop working if they can't phone home for a week or so

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

This worked fine for a number of years until it started wasting ink like mad (had to deep-clean it after 3-4 pages with color images (not full-sized images, just some graphics on the page).

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

This is a fairly recent development. Maybe 3-4 years old.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Our last HP was definitively older. I have to admit it lasted long, and worked rather good until about a year ago.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And if they do have USB printing, the firmware might still get in the way. Don't buy HP printers if you just want to print and be done.

[-] gazby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

Can confirm, sister in law had one of these and it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure it out.

[-] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

PC Load Letter? What the f**k does THAT mean?

[-] ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth 13 points 2 years ago

Why does the USB port say no USB?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

The only other three comments explained it an hour ago.

[-] ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth 6 points 2 years ago

Thanks, don't know why I didn't see those comments before.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Federation takes time

[-] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah but can you give me the cliff notes?

[-] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Its for the legendary wireless cable

[-] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I honestly thought it was a port just for a wireless dongle or something.

[-] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It looks to me as if an ESP-01S WLAN WiFi module is installed under the plastic cover (under the stickers) and as if it is the back of a 3D printer. Then you could remove it and the host device would no longer have WiFi. If the host at least does not check whether it is present etc. when booting/starting and otherwise refuses the service

[-] Zatore@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

In my years of IT, I saw a few customers do this. I always put the printers on WiFi so they could move the printer to wherever they wanted it.

[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe it's the environments I work in, but WiFi printing always ends in tragedy.

[-] Zatore@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Ya, you have to be careful with printing over WiFi. Robust DNS and static IP's can help a lot.

[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

For sure. Plenty of times I've had to go power cycle a little desk printer just for it to work again. Oddly, commercial label printers (like TSC) have been surprisingly ok, even in large industrial shops.

[-] Zatore@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

You get what you pay for high end printers

[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Ya, hindsight it's a dumb comparison.

[-] nicerdicer@feddit.org 1 points 2 years ago

HP printers are the avantgarde of enshittification when it comes to gadgets, although the earliest way I can think of selling a product similarly to a subscription is Gillette shavers. They basically sold a handle, and the first set of razor blades were free. After that one had to buy their proprietary and overpriced blades. HP managed to take this principle into the realm of peripheral devices.

Nowadays other gadgets have been "inspired" by HP in therms of enshittification. For instance, there are headphones that require an app to be set up properly, as the manufactorer can save implementing a physical button and can get tracking data form the user.

The sticker on the USB port is just another (physical) dark pattern.

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