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[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I would think "if you have a Y chromosome, you're male" would be a better definition to fit what they're trying to do

[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There's like a not insignificant 1% of people who are intersex where looking at chromosomes can get tricky.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 3 hours ago

As if the right would care.

[–] dragonfucker 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Embryos can't produce gametes. Everyone is agender now.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

wouldnt it be intersex since it's talking about sex and not gender?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe I'm blazed off my rocker, but isn't that an approximate definition you'd get from a biology prof. if they're in a hurry? I swear I heard something like that in one genetics class many moons ago. (I know the actual quote is probably wrong, but the rest is meh ok yeah sure.)

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

The problem with this definition is that sex differentiation is determined by many genes, and the genetic makeup at conception is not always indicative of what primary and secondary sexual characteristics will develop. This is purely with regards to biological sex, and we're not even talking about a person's gender here.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 104 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

YOU KNOW WHO I WORRY ABOUT COMING INTO WOMEN'S BATHROOMS, CONSERVATIVES?

CIS MEN.

I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD A TRANS WOMAN MAKE ME FEEL UNSAFE IN THERE. BUT I HAVE HAD CIS MEN FOLLOW ME IN AND ATTEMPT ASSAULT.

MEN DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE CONVOLUTED STEPS OF TRANSITIONING TO GAIN ACCESS TO WOMEN'S BATHROOMS, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

MAYBE ADDRESS THAT FIRST? NO???

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 22 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

They believe that anyone can claim they're a woman now and that's it. And once it's done they can just walk into women's bathrooms. They're just telling on themselves, projecting on trans people. They're just sex obsessed freaks, all of them.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 hours ago

I know. I was raised in a fundie church. I did not escape unscathed. They're fucked up perverts.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've said that if I was wealthy, I would force legislation that was trans friendly by (as a cis woman) going into women's bathrooms in Congress, standing on toilets, and staring at women.

Women's bathrooms don't have urinals! There's no reason for anyone to be afraid of anyone seeing anything in there, unless they stand on toilets, and Im fully of the opinion that the gender of the person doing that has nothing to do with how creepy it is!!

Maybe if you're actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?

And I believe nothing can get that point across quite like demonstrating that I, as an almost middle aged, fat woman who looks like I could safely run for a Rwpublican seat, standing on toilets and staring at people.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe if you're actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?

They made a bathroom at my university that’s gender neutral with stalls that are fully ceiling to floor with no gaps in the door.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 hours ago

And this is how it should be everywhere!

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[–] yozul@beehaw.org 15 points 10 hours ago

I guess the nicest thing I could say about this is that I'm glad that if they're going to be evil, at least they're bad at it.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 173 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Since there is insufficient cell differentiation at conception to produce any reproductive cells, does that mean that according to the white house, all people are legally non-binary now?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 71 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Female gametes are expressed first, so we've all been forced to be women

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

We did it, we broke the glass ceiling.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are they expressed AT CONCEPTION?

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

This is what is expressed during conception.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Who would have thought that Trump would be the first female president of the United States

[–] dragonfucker 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, he's the first agender president. Embryos don't produce any gametes at conception. The idea that embryos are all female is a myth spread by people who don't believe in nonbinary sex.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

They would be the better pronoun in this instance then.

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[–] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

So we’re all female. Neat!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Alright, I'll keep my promise. All the homies can hit it.

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 39 points 13 hours ago

“You know what we mean!”

So we’re back to gender being a social construct then.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I recommend everyone visit the DMV as soon as possible to change their license. It's an order from the commander in chief.

Now that I think of it: every DMV should be only be able to issue licenses with a female designation. Facts and law suites don't care about your feelings, snow flakes.

[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

when the fascists accidentally forcefem all of america:

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

*neuter

Embryos don't produce gametes of any type.

[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

Let me have this damn

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago

Alright then, take your pills, Alice.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 25 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'm no biologist, but I'm pretty sure nobody produces gametes at conception. If you want to be pedantic, oocytes form before birth, but actual sperm and eggs don't show up till puberty (feel free to correct me).

Now, I would LOVE if we don't assign gender till puberty, but I still don't like the method.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

i've always thought the egg cells were produced before birth and at puberty they just start being released

and i agree about not assigning gender until puberty. kids before puberty barely even show any sexual dimorphism anyway. though i have to say there would need to be A LOT of educating people about sex and gender before we get there

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 44 points 15 hours ago

Republicans showing once again their cognitive prowess.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 45 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What about people who produce neither?

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They usually handwave and claim "they don't count" because they can't reproduce, assuming that somehow means they can be ignored.

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[–] vzq@lemmy.world 43 points 15 hours ago

It’s the gamete crowd, but adapted for the crowd that can’t spell “gamete”.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is... is that the actual wording?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 15 hours ago (10 children)

Holy shit. Surely those who drafted this realize the importance of wording in legal documents. What an egregious error.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you think that? These lines were written by fascists to appeal to morons. Proper wording only matters for those of us that live in reality.

[–] verdare@beehaw.org 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly, a part of me is wondering if this is a case of malicious compliance. Like, did one of these evil motherfuckers offload the task of drafting this onto someone with a human soul?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 hours ago

i was literally just thinking that! it feels like some trolling staffer(s) with a knowledge of biology got a jab in.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 35 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm a late bloomer but I started producing reproduce cells long after conception

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