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Elise Stefanik, President Trump’s nominee for U.S. ambassador to the UN, stated during her confirmation hearing that Israel has a "biblical right" to the occupied West Bank, aligning with far-right Israeli officials.

Stefanik sidestepped support for Palestinian self-determination, blaming their leadership for failures.

Her stance signals a shift from Biden-era opposition to Israeli settlements, with Trump lifting sanctions on Israeli settler groups and nominating pro-settlement figures like Mike Huckabee for key roles.

Stefanik also vowed to audit UN funding and block aid to Palestinian refugee agencies.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Had a Biblical right, but they forfeited it when they stopped following God and went and did things worse than the surrounding nations. They were rejected as a kingdom of God just before Babylon took over, and when they flash mobbed the Romans to execute Jesus, that completed the rejection. Israel has not been the Kingdom of God for 2,500 years, roughly, and definitely do not have his backing for this assault.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 26 minutes ago

Then don’t be surprised about Muslims following the Quran to the letter

• Surah Al-Hajj (22:39-40)

“Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right—only because they say, ‘Our Lord is Allah.’ …”

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago

The bible is just a story book, and if you take it so seriously that you support what is happening over there right now then you're fucked.

Fight me.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 hours ago
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

It's barely in the Torah, and it's sure as shit not in the bibble.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Lots of comments trying to sanewash an actual genocide. Humanity is not a team sport.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 57 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

You know what the bible also says, Elise?

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

-- 1 Timothy 2:12

Please STFU Elise Stefanik as is your biblical right, nay duty, thus sayeth your lord.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

According to the white house you're a woman too. As gender is now assigned at conception ... Stupid penis taking 8 weeks to start appearing in utero.

[–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago

Knowing how these people behave, it’s “rules for thee, not for me”, and “yes that’s true but every woman should follow, but I’ll continue to say whatever the fuck I want anyways”. Cognitive dissonance on the surface level does not stop them. It’s always been a “I will say whatever the fuck I want and hide behind some pretty words, and all I have to do is to ignore your criticisms. You can’t touch me.”

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 100 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

We did it, Patrick. We saved Palestine.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 36 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Kamala would've nuked it.
You know, hormones and the predisposition to genocide, or whatever.
Great work everyone.
As a bonus, we get to:


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[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Declare everyone as biologically female (because at inception, all embryos are female. It's only after 6-7 weeks that the y chromosome kicks in an makes it biologically male. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/, https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ - note the "at conception" points)).

As somebody who has done courses in gender studies it is painful how plain wrong and unscientific this is. Sure will be true for a lot of the other ones (especially climate). The sex ideology one (and contrary to their claim they of course are the ones with an ideology, because that is what you have when you ignore reality and make up your own truth based on falsehood) will do a lot of harm on the short term. There are real people out there who's whole existence just got denied. My heart goes out (without a Sieg Heil, but in an empatic way) to all the Transpeople, Intersex People, Non-Binary People and all others who just got their identity denied. Please stay safe and hold tight. There are sane cis people out here who know you exist and stand by your side. For what ever that will be worth in the time to come.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Correction on your one point - they declared that everyone is neither male nor female, since no one at conception produces reproductive cells. That starts happening later.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, more accurate to say everyone is androgynous based on the order.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Let the shoulder patting commence.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 21 points 7 hours ago (16 children)

As recently as yesterday, someone on Lemmy was showcasing to me the cease-fire Trump skillfully engineered in Gaza, with his straight-talking diplomatic skills, as an example of what Biden could have been doing any time he felt up to getting on Trump's level, and a reason why Trump was better.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

I'm surprised you're still here, to be honest. Yes, I know what Palestine is like right now. I care a lot about it. I wrote my congresspeople, back when they were approving the aid, trying to tell them not to do it. I didn't think it would do anything, and it didn't. That's why I didn't want Trump to come, and make things quite a bit worse than even Biden's already war-criminal level of performance.

Around 85% of the Palestinians in Gaza are still alive right now, as far as I know. How many once Trump is done with them?

50%?

80%? Will he solve the Middle East during his term, and bring an end to the killing? It seems unlikely.

Less than 10%, with a lot of it annexed to Israel?

That last one seems pretty probable to me. I think better than 50/50 odds. I don't want to bet.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 72 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

therefore american indians have a birthright to 100% of the united states, right? right?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 34 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't say so in the Bible though, tough luck.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 hours ago

Not in that new-old-fashioned one, but the Book of Mormon's got them covered.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago

Didn't trump want to get rid of birthright citizenship? We can just retroactively do it to 1500AD, and give the land back. What's that? Not like that?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No, no, not like that. The whites had manifest destiny!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Mormons seen nervously filing away all that "Native Americans are the lost tribes of Israelites" real quickly.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Giving the history of US voting in the UN on anything Israel related being No, this doesnt make any difference.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

These fucking cunts either pretend to believe in fairy tales or really do believe in fairy tales, and I’m not sure which is worse.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Right doesn't it feel like seeing grown ass adults believing in Santa Claus?

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 20 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

And so has Russia to the Donbas, and so has China to Taiwan, and so has North Korea to South Korea, ans so has Germany to Silesia and Prussia and so have native Americans to America.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd expect that she's not saying "they lived on it a long time ago", but rather "God gave it to the Israelites according to the Bible".

Exodus 23: 27-31:

I will have the terror of me precede you, so that I will throw into panic every nation you reach. I will make all your enemies turn from you in flight, and ahead of you I will send hornets to drive the Hivites, Canaanites and Hittites out of your way. But I will not drive them all out before you in one year, lest the land become desolate and the wild animals multiply against you. Little by little I will drive them out before you, until you have grown numerous enough to take possession of the land. I will set your boundaries from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines, and from the wilderness to the Euphrates; all who dwell in this land I will hand over to you and you shall drive them out before you. You shall not make a covenant with them or their gods. They must not live in your land. For if you serve their gods, this will become a snare to you.

Like, divine will and such.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 12 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

This particular god is obviously genocidal. People who worship him are immoral cowards at best.

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[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 8 hours ago

what a disgusting thing to say.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Felon rapist using Bible to promote genocide.

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