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Elise Stefanik, President Trump’s nominee for U.S. ambassador to the UN, stated during her confirmation hearing that Israel has a "biblical right" to the occupied West Bank, aligning with far-right Israeli officials.

Stefanik sidestepped support for Palestinian self-determination, blaming their leadership for failures.

Her stance signals a shift from Biden-era opposition to Israeli settlements, with Trump lifting sanctions on Israeli settler groups and nominating pro-settlement figures like Mike Huckabee for key roles.

Stefanik also vowed to audit UN funding and block aid to Palestinian refugee agencies.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Remember everyone, the "ceasefire" that Trump "negotiated" (wink wink) is in no way just a temporary distraction, he's better for Gaza than Dems could ever have been.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 1 hour ago

They haven't even stopped killing. Most of the death at this point is from injury, disease, and starvation, and I'm sure they are still not letting any food come in. And they've still been shooting people. And they did an air strike on a refugee camp in the West Bank yesterday, too, which they had been leaving alone for the most part.

Presumably, they'll keep doing that until someone shoots at the IDF, at which point it will suddenly become a big deal that "Hamas broke the ceasefire" and they'll resume unapologetically shooting people at scale. Starvation and disease, meanwhile, will be doing their gruesome work throughout, unabated.

I don't honestly know whether Netanyahu engineered the timing on purpose, to give an opportunity for craven propaganda outlets to make a big fanciful noise about what a genius Trump is because he fixed Palestine, unlike that loser Joe Biden. I could see it either way: It would cost him nothing, but on the other hand, why bother? I'm not sure he really cares what people say about Trump. Either way, he gets what he wants.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Bible is not historically accurate. (≖_≖ )

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

A work of fiction isn't historically accurate?

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, I tell you!

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

In that case, Spain has a divine right to all parts of the US west of the Tordesillas Meridian. The pope said so.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago

Then don’t be surprised about Muslims following the Quran to the letter

• Surah Al-Hajj (22:39-40)

“Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right—only because they say, ‘Our Lord is Allah.’ …”

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 26 points 8 hours ago

The bible is just a story book, and if you take it so seriously that you support what is happening over there right now then you're fucked.

Fight me.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 12 points 8 hours ago
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 82 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

You know what the bible also says, Elise?

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

-- 1 Timothy 2:12

Please STFU Elise Stefanik as is your biblical right, nay duty, thus sayeth your lord.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

According to the white house you're a woman too. As gender is now assigned at conception ... Stupid penis taking 8 weeks to start appearing in utero.

[–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 12 points 10 hours ago

Knowing how these people behave, it’s “rules for thee, not for me”, and “yes that’s true but every woman should follow, but I’ll continue to say whatever the fuck I want anyways”. Cognitive dissonance on the surface level does not stop them. It’s always been a “I will say whatever the fuck I want and hide behind some pretty words, and all I have to do is to ignore your criticisms. You can’t touch me.”

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

It's barely in the Torah, and it's sure as shit not in the bibble.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 125 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

We did it, Patrick. We saved Palestine.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 50 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Kamala would've nuked it.
You know, hormones and the predisposition to genocide, or whatever.
Great work everyone.
As a bonus, we get to:


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[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Declare everyone as biologically female (because at inception, all embryos are female. It's only after 6-7 weeks that the y chromosome kicks in an makes it biologically male. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/, https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ - note the "at conception" points)).

As somebody who has done courses in gender studies it is painful how plain wrong and unscientific this is. Sure will be true for a lot of the other ones (especially climate). The sex ideology one (and contrary to their claim they of course are the ones with an ideology, because that is what you have when you ignore reality and make up your own truth based on falsehood) will do a lot of harm on the short term. There are real people out there who's whole existence just got denied. My heart goes out (without a Sieg Heil, but in an empatic way) to all the Transpeople, Intersex People, Non-Binary People and all others who just got their identity denied. Please stay safe and hold tight. There are sane cis people out here who know you exist and stand by your side. For what ever that will be worth in the time to come.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

As somebody who has done courses in gender studies it is painful how plain wrong and unscientific this is

And this is exactly why they're doing everything they can to make sure people can't learn this stuff in the future.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Correction on your one point - they declared that everyone is neither male nor female, since no one at conception produces reproductive cells. That starts happening later.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, more accurate to say everyone is androgynous based on the order.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Let the shoulder patting commence.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 27 points 13 hours ago (17 children)

As recently as yesterday, someone on Lemmy was showcasing to me the cease-fire Trump skillfully engineered in Gaza, with his straight-talking diplomatic skills, as an example of what Biden could have been doing any time he felt up to getting on Trump's level, and a reason why Trump was better.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Lol right? They didn't even wait for the fucking ink to dry...

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 14 points 12 hours ago (9 children)

I'm surprised you're still here, to be honest. Yes, I know what Palestine is like right now. I care a lot about it. I wrote my congresspeople, back when they were approving the aid, trying to tell them not to do it. I didn't think it would do anything, and it didn't. That's why I didn't want Trump to come, and make things quite a bit worse than even Biden's already war-criminal level of performance.

Around 85% of the Palestinians in Gaza are still alive right now, as far as I know. How many once Trump is done with them?

50%?

80%? Will he solve the Middle East during his term, and bring an end to the killing? It seems unlikely.

Less than 10%, with a lot of it annexed to Israel?

That last one seems pretty probable to me. I think better than 50/50 odds. I don't want to bet.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 30 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Lots of comments trying to sanewash an actual genocide. Humanity is not a team sport.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 84 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

therefore american indians have a birthright to 100% of the united states, right? right?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 42 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't say so in the Bible though, tough luck.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No, no, not like that. The whites had manifest destiny!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Mormons seen nervously filing away all that "Native Americans are the lost tribes of Israelites" real quickly.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

These fucking cunts either pretend to believe in fairy tales or really do believe in fairy tales, and I’m not sure which is worse.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Right doesn't it feel like seeing grown ass adults believing in Santa Claus?

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Giving the history of US voting in the UN on anything Israel related being No, this doesnt make any difference.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 14 hours ago

what a disgusting thing to say.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 18 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

And so has Russia to the Donbas, and so has China to Taiwan, and so has North Korea to South Korea, ans so has Germany to Silesia and Prussia and so have native Americans to America.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 18 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd expect that she's not saying "they lived on it a long time ago", but rather "God gave it to the Israelites according to the Bible".

Exodus 23: 27-31:

I will have the terror of me precede you, so that I will throw into panic every nation you reach. I will make all your enemies turn from you in flight, and ahead of you I will send hornets to drive the Hivites, Canaanites and Hittites out of your way. But I will not drive them all out before you in one year, lest the land become desolate and the wild animals multiply against you. Little by little I will drive them out before you, until you have grown numerous enough to take possession of the land. I will set your boundaries from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines, and from the wilderness to the Euphrates; all who dwell in this land I will hand over to you and you shall drive them out before you. You shall not make a covenant with them or their gods. They must not live in your land. For if you serve their gods, this will become a snare to you.

Like, divine will and such.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 15 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

This particular god is obviously genocidal. People who worship him are immoral cowards at best.

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