this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2025
864 points (99.3% liked)

News

24240 readers
4191 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Phyllis Fong, a 22-year veteran of the department, had earlier told colleagues that she intended to stay after the White House terminated her on Friday, saying that she didn’t believe the administration had followed proper protocols, the sources said.

In an email to colleagues on Saturday, reviewed by Reuters, she said the independent council of the inspectors general on integrity and efficiency “has taken the position that these termination notices do not comply with the requirements set out in law and therefore are not effective at this time”.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old

Man, that's a grade A beef. Or wait, is it? This keeps happening and how the hell are we going to know!?

[Yes, I'm making cheap jokes as the U.S crumbles. Yes, I feel this is necessary.]

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 34 points 7 hours ago

Respect to anyone fighting back or pushing back against Trump.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Is this why their website was down?

Edit: is down

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No. It's down so they can remove any and all mention of bird flu because that's what's making eggs expensive.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Eggs have been getting expensive before that. All animal products will continue to increase in price because of how inefficient they are.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 55 minutes ago

FOUND THE VEGAN!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 10 hours ago

Good for her.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 40 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Build union power, mass strike action is a necessity and the only way to prove who runs the country.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They would just all be terminated. They don't seem to care if the government functions or not.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago

I'm talking broadly, US unions should be showing solidarity to government workers getting fired and put in place mass strike action. So employment in any and all industries necessitates union membership. That is union power.

[–] BugKilla@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

This the plan. No government -> no regulations. No regulations -> no lube. No lube -> the US citizenry's anus. Gaping, flaccid, prolapsed US citizenry's anus' -> corporate profits.

Metaphorically speaking of course.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago

Getting rid of oversight and transparency is the first step to stealing. A grifters typical move.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 106 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

The amount of corruption will definitely turn the USA into another China and Russia. Wake up Congress! This is under your watch.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 80 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The current majority of Congress not only enabled this; they want this.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

They certainly want whatever their donors want.

[–] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They want to turn western countries also into narcissistic shitholes. It seems like billionaires have power already, not congress

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 133 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh I see why they fired her. She's not a white guy kissing Trump's ass.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

She had the gall to try to inspect Neuralink so obviously she had to go.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 19 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] clockworkstone@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Wait, did you mean a paddlin, or a paladin? Funy either way, but they both paint completely different pictures in my head.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 88 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Escorted out by whom? Who marched into a government building to follow this illegal order?

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 52 points 22 hours ago
[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 30 points 21 hours ago

Whoever did it had qualified immunity, without a doubt. Better off not resisting there.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 356 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You're under the mistaken assumption that this is a country of laws any more.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 192 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

Rule of Law is being replaced by Rule of Power

I'm happy she made a stand, and its being talked about. I, like you, doubt anything will really come of it, but it does highlight the change.

[–] anon593839@lemmy.world 181 points 1 day ago (2 children)

She did the right thing by making them force her out

I'm pasting Timothy Snyder's Twenty Lessons on Fighting Tyranny from the Twentieth Century here.

I think #1 is incredibly important in these dark times. Donald Trump and his cronies can make all the decrees they want, but these decrees depend on people obeying. Any resistance is better than none.


1. Do not obey in advance. Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power what it can do.

  1. Defend institutions. It is institutions that help us to preserve decency. They need our help as well. Do not speak of “our institutions” unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf. Institutions do not protect themselves. So choose an institution you care about and take its side.

  2. Beware the one-party state. The parties that remade states and suppressed rivals were not omnipotent from the start. They exploited a historic moment to make political life impossible for their opponents. So support the multi-party system and defend the rules of democratic elections.

  3. Take responsibility for the face of the world. The symbols of today enable the reality of tomorrow. Notice the swastikas and other signs of hate. Do not look away, and do not get used to them. Remove them yourself and set an example for others to do so.

  4. Remember professional ethics. When political leaders set a negative example, professional commitments to just practice become important. It is hard to subvert a rule-of-law state without lawyers, or to hold show trials without judges. Authoritarians need obedient civil servants, and concentration camp directors seek businessmen interested in cheap labor.

  5. Be wary of paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching around with torches and pictures of a Leader, the end is nigh. When the pro-leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the end has come.

  6. Be reflective if you must be armed. If you carry a weapon in public service, God bless you and keep you. But know that evils of the past involved policemen and soldiers finding themselves, one day, doing irregular things. Be ready to say no.

  7. Stand out. Someone has to. It is easy to follow along. It can feel strange to do or say something different. But without that unease, there is no freedom. Remember Rosa Parks. The moment you set an example, the spell of the status quo is broken, and others will follow.

  8. Be kind to our language. Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone is saying. Make an effort to separate yourself from the internet. Read books.

  9. Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.

  10. Investigate. Figure things out for yourself. Spend more time with long articles. Subsidize investigative journalism by subscribing to print media. Realize that some of what is on the internet is there to harm you. Learn about sites that investigate propaganda campaigns (some of which come from abroad). Take responsibility for what you communicate to others.

  11. Make eye contact and small talk. This is not just polite. It is part of being a citizen and a responsible member of society. It is also a way to stay in touch with your surroundings, break down social barriers, and understand whom you should and should not trust. If we enter a culture of denunciation, you will want to know the psychological landscape of your daily life.

  12. Practice corporeal politics. Power wants your body softening in your chair and your emotions dissipating on the screen. Get outside. Put your body in unfamiliar places with unfamiliar people. Make new friends and march with them.

  13. Establish a private life. Nastier rulers will use what they know about you to push you around. Scrub your computer of malware. Remember that email is skywriting. Consider using alternative forms of the Internet, or simply using it less. Have personal exchanges in person. For the same reason, resolve any legal trouble.

  14. Contribute to good causes. Be active in organizations, political or not, that express your own view of life. Pick a charity or two and set up autopay.

  15. Learn from peers in other countries. Keep up your friendships abroad, or make new friends abroad. The present difficulties in the United States are an element of a larger trend. And no country is going to find a solution by itself. Make sure you and your family have passports.

  16. Listen for dangerous words. Be alert to the use of the words extremism and terrorism. Be alive to the fatal notions of emergency and exception. Be angry about the treacherous use of patriotic vocabulary.

  17. Be calm when the unthinkable arrives. Modern tyranny is terror management. When the terrorist attack comes, remember that authoritarians exploit such events in order to consolidate power. Do not fall for it.

  18. Be a patriot. Set a good example of what America means for the generations to come.

  19. Be as courageous as you can. If none of us is prepared to die for freedom, then all of us will die under tyranny.

[–] Kyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Just saw this today as well which apparently has recently become very popular for obvious reasons: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26184

It's a WW2 manual written by the CIA on how to combat Fascism from the inside. As I think was mentioned in another thread, it has a lot of violent action in it as it was written for war time but contains a lot of similar thoughts. Some if it is honestly hilarious: "Jam paper, bits of wood, hairpins, and anything else that will fit, into the locks of all unguarded entrances to public buildings."

[–] SouthernLight@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This is amazing. I had never seen this before. Thank you for sharing.

[–] anon593839@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

You're welcome!

He also wrote a short book that expands on each of those points: https://timothysnyder.org/on-tyranny/

I highly recommend his substack as well: https://snyder.substack.com/

load more comments (16 replies)
[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every country, no matter the system, is only as just and lawful as those with power enforce it to be. No human system of governance has overcome the problem of crooked individuals using power as they please.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The USDA office staff should've barricaded the building to keep the jackbooted thugs out.

That is the level of resistance we need to be at, at this point.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

They should've, yet they didn't. All this 2A stuff Americans have been hyping up for decades has really just been a pose this whole time. All a bluff, and now that the fascists are not only within their shores, but in the highest offices of power? It is a beyond imaginably fucked situation right now, even with all this controversy it doesn't resemble a fraction of how alarmed we should all be. There needs to be a mass panic, or people need to act RIGHT NOW.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 10 hours ago

American here, and what you wrote sounds pretty good on the surface. The problem is that the nutty vocal 2A fanatics are the exact people who delighted in putting the fascists in charge.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

These cosplaying-few day old accounts need to get a life. Love how much you've distorted the reality of the situation thinking the 2A crowd is the same ones declaring fascists are in charge now. Please tell us more how an individual should put themselves into harms-way while you type behind your brave keyboard.

The lady refused to leave her post till forcefully removed, same action as a sit-in which was effective as a peaceful demonstration of a protest during the civil rights era. The fact that you're telling people to arm up in a government building makes me think you're just another Jan 6'er or watch way too much entertainment thinking it's facts.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Please tell us more how an individual should put themselves into harms-way while you type behind your brave keyboard.

I took a brick to the knee standing up against the UK fascists that went running around doing pogroms. I'd take a million more too. What are you doing to stand up against fascism? Show up to work on time?

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 182 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Ms. Fong is correct. Let's start with the wrongful termination suits. And let's stop reacting to these fascists, instead let's seek injunctions, and other proactive things. They've told us their plans. It's well past time to get active!

load more comments (17 replies)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The White House defended the firing of Fong and the other inspectors general, saying “these rogue, partisan bureaucrats … have been relieved of their duties in order to make room for qualified individuals who will uphold the rule of law and protect Democracy.”

They really have the doublespeak down.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 45 points 23 hours ago

rogue, partisan = nonpartisan

qualified = sycophantic

uphold the rule of law and protect Democracy = ride Trump's cock

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

After everything, I do still generally respect and like Jon Stewart, but even I found his piece this week on the Daily Show to be some real weak ass shit. I try my best to keep ahold of myself, not run away too much with assumptions or conspiratorial thinking. But you don't have to wait for them to do 100% fascist shit to start calling them fascists.

The White House defended the firing of Fong and the other inspectors general, saying “these rogue, partisan bureaucrats … have been relieved of their duties in order to make room for qualified individuals who will uphold the rule of law and protect Democracy.”

This. This right here. They are screaming their intent at us and we don't need to wait for them to do it to respectably call them fascists. Like to be clear I guess he can do this but the way he did it is potentially incorrect? Regardless, that's not what I want to hear you say when you do it to a 22-year veteran of the department.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

I do still generally respect and like Jon Stewart, but even I found his piece this week on the Daily Show to be some real weak ass shit.

I'm glad you brought this up because I've noticed the tone change in all the media as well. I don't blame them and understand. They spent months or years screaming and calling out Trump after spending years during his first term pointing out everything wrong.

Everyone's burnt out, you can hear it in the jokes and the incredulous chuckles that come out from segments now. They all tried their best but it didn't change the outcome, that has to make you take a step back. I honestly would probably do the same, you can't keep bombarding people with multiple items a day and expect them not to tune it out eventually. They know it's time to switch to a better long-term strategy than what they've been trying to do calling out all the bullshit with intensity.

load more comments (16 replies)
[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And who did the escorting??

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 49 points 1 day ago

Exactly! Get names. The order was illegal. "Just following orders" isn't justification. Get those security people in court. Get their manager. Get everyone at every step in the decision-making chain. Make people second guess whether participating in a thing that's "controversial" is a good idea. The little foot soldiers should be worried about just doing things because the boss said so.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›